Rushman

I wouldn't apologise...you've gone up in my estimation.

Roland Hulme

Oooh err. Now I'm nervous.

Rushman

Consider me your mentor.

Bob

It's not that easy if your new to the state though is it, because you'd have to wait for pay cycle, billing cycle to get through, which means you'd be getting your license after 30 day period which can be interesting.

ugacrew

Oregon is another state that has outlawed self service as well. I believe their reason for it was to prevent drive-off's at the pump. I found this out when I tried to pump my own gas when I vacationed there.

ugacrew

I sense a disturbance in the force.

jenniferpa

Actually an old-style unexpiring green card (i.e. mine) is only worth 2 points

And you can only use 2 of those. That makes 4 points. Your only additional option would be to get married (or divorced), which seems pretty radical, if you haven't already. Oh, or get a gun license.

Obviously it can be done, but my point is - don't assume that any experience you have in one state, or with one government body, will translate to another state or another government body.

Roland Hulme

VERY valid point, Jennifer. Kudos.

Although I was referring to my experiences in the same state and with the same govt. body as Elizabeth Websters.

And in your case. Old passport - two points. Old green card - two points. Two other points of ID. Six.

Perhaps - PERHAPS - it involves inconvenient rummaging through your knicker draw to get the valid ID together, but I still managed it with a few weeks (not months) of arriving in the US.

jenniferpa

You think the old passport would work? That wouldn't occur to me. Anyway it's academic - I'm not moving to NJ

I do get fed up with different states/different systems though. I know why it's like that but I don't have to like it (she says, stamping her feet).

Roland Hulme

My complaint is with Elizabeth's article.

She states that 'they' (the NJ MVC) wouldn't accept her British passport as proof of ID - implying entirely falsely that this is a normal state of affairs.

She doesn't put any disclaimer that her passport was 'old' or didn't have the correct visa in it or anything of that sort. She presents her example as a typical experience for anybody presenting the DMV with a British passport.

And in doing so, what she wrote is entirely misleading.

I mean, that's journalism, I guess. But it's not very GOOD journalism to distort the facts in such a fashion.

Or maybe it IS very good journalism.

Roland Hulme

You're quite right.

And in getting all pissy about Elizabeth's article, I neatly ignore my OWN footstamping. http://rolandhulme.blogspot.com/2007...y-anarchy.html

Jerseygirl

That won't be a problem for you too much longer because you have to convert to the 10 yr GC.

Jerseygirl

Before we sat our written test we showed our PPs...they didn't know what the hell it was. There was some discussion that it meant we were residents of Oklahoma....UK/OK.

Now the large pink UK driving license written in English on one side and Welsh on the other really threw them. Of course I handed mine in Welsh side up.

Jerseygirl

Nope it hasn't changed...but it's pretty stupid to have to pump your own gas in this weather IMO.

ugacrew

Oregon is also a state where Self Service isn't an option. I believe their reason is to prevent drive-off's from happening. I found that out by accident when I tried to pump my own gas when I was vacationing there.