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Old Mar 17th 2007, 7:33 pm
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Is Haggerwood paying off his student loans?
haggerwood???
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lol, no i'm not paying for his plane ticket....and it's not as if he's coming from some third world country, lol, it's England..lol

And that is relevant....how??????????

I know several Brits that are users and abusers of women in the US for green card purposes.
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Originally Posted by kissalicious1975
But if he said he was coming for holiday, to see NY, Disneyworld, etc, and that he has a friend that lives in Kentucky, why couldn't someone do that, especially a guy, just because he wants to?
Well... I see I've arrived late to the party! I'm also in Kentucky... over on the east side of the state where men go to family reunions to get a date. Are you from this neck of the woods... or from the more civilized central area of the commonwealth?

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Originally Posted by DollyLlama
Why the hurry to get married?
Maybe you should get to know him in person first......
Yeah get to know him first or at least wait to see what he looks like in person ......you can do some real nifty "morphing" tricks on the computer easily these days. Life is like a box of chocolates....you never know what you're gonna git!! You may think you are getting Brad Pitt and you end out with Lyle Lovett!! LOL
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On Mar 17, 11:38 am, kissalicious1975
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, it's just that i've been reading over a lot of the posts on here
> the past couple of days and i've heard both sides of the fence. I hear
> others saying, "We got married while under the VWP and everything is
> fine". I'm not some horrible law breaking person, not even so much as a
> speeding ticket...i just want to know how things are likely to be
> handled at the POE with the information i have provided, be it ethically
> or legally to other's liking...i would just appreciate some kind words
> of advice.

I live in Canada, and my best friend was in a very similar
situation... She had an Internet Boyfriend that she'd never met, so
she couldn't possibly qualify for a K-1 and go and get married. She
knew she wanted to live with him in California, but knew she had to
meet him first and visit for a few weeks just to see what he's like
(see where he lived, meet his family, find out what her new home town
would be like, find out that more people spoke Spanish than English,
etc). Obviously she can't get a K-1 without having met in person at
least once in the previous two years, and she has to meet him somehow
to get that qualification so she can apply (if she thought it was the
right thing to do).

Meanwhile, she's unemployed, and he has a job he can't leave, so he
can't go and see her in Canada. She figures it's okay to pack her
backs and take a discounted bus ride down there just to visit for a
few weeks and check it out. She knew she might stay longer, but not
much longer since she had responsibilities in Canada.

So she went down to Detroit on Greyhound, and guess what? They
wouldn't let her in. She was told she had insufficient ties. Having
never left Canada in her whole life, and because she didn't think to
call me up and ask me any questions (since I did something similar,
travelled 3000 miles to meet a stranger, of course that stranger just
became a close friend, nothing more...) I could have told her to bring
ties, proof of apartment, proof of income/support for self, etc. She
figured she couldn't use her bank card and just left it at home with
money in the account, and took cash that she thought was enough, but
they didn't think so.

So here she is being returned to Canada, with no way to even obtain
the requirement for a K-1 and get a visa, because her first visit is
denied. She didn't live with her parents or anything, they told her
that she didn't qualify because she didn't bring enough proof of ties,
and that she had to have a job. Her response is, "he has a job, that's
why he can't visit me, and I can go visit him." She has medical
reasons for not working, but didn't think to get a doctor's note or
anything to verify that, so she's got no case to plead while in
secondary, and was sent back.

Immigration is touch and go, depending on who you get, and what they
think the visitor/immigrant should be doing. Here's an example... I
had $600 in cash on me when I went on a shopping trip and I'm being
asked "why so much money?" yet when I travelled to Utah to pick up my
vehicle for my road trip, I told the guy I had $650 in cash, and it
never occurred to him "that's a lot of cash", apparently that's
acceptable. It doesn't matter that I still have thousands at my
disposal and a US checking account and debit card (so why the cash,
when it can be stored in the bank?) So it depends on who you get... I
told this guy (on my vacation trip) that I had funds in the bank, and
he still wanted to make sure I had a credit card, "just in case".
You'd think someone who had their year's salary in savings would be
fine, even without a credit card... but that was important for some
reason. I guess after all the financial questions, he just figured I
was really cheap for taking a bus. I could have bussed to Detroit or
Buffalo and spend the same money on a plane ticket, but that's less
fun and you don't get souvenirs from every state.

So that being said, you have a quandary... you can't get a K-1 for him
because you've never met, so you have to meet to get that stepping
stone out of the way. As other posters said, you can get married, but
he can't stay, otherwise you are committing immigration fraud. (I'm
not going into what you may or may not get away with, they may ask him
if he's intending to get married, and if they do, you might really
want to consider a K-1 fiance visa...) And yes, I have been asked if I
was going to get married in the US. The fact they even suspected I
might is going to haunt me for a long time, because "relationships
just don't go away", they might for me, but in their eyes, it's always
a possibility.

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Old Mar 18th 2007, 6:11 am
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On Mar 17, 12:24 pm, Deedee13 <[email protected]>
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> Is this his first trip to the USA, and he is going to book his return
> flight for 3 months down the road on his first trip. I think this alone
> is going to put up some red flags when he enters.

FWIW, when I met the guy I had been talking to online (I met him 10
years ago, we talked online for three years, meeting wasn't feasible,
and we weren't a couple online either, just people who knew each other
from different countries), I booked a ticket with a flexible return
date and intended to be in the US for two weeks.

I arranged for someone I knew to meet me at the airport and put me up
for a night before making the 200 mile journey to meet my friend. My
Bay-Area friend and his wife came with me to make sure I'd be okay in
the town I was staying at, it was nice of them to look out for me.
(This Bay-Area friend is someone I also knew for a few years). I had
my butt covered for safety, told my dad everywhere I'd be, phone
numbers, etc.

The flexible return option was mainly so if I hated the guy on sight,
I wouldn't be stuck paying for a hotel/motel for two weeks while
waiting for my flight out. I didn't want to be stuck visiting someone
I might not get along with. Although I thought everything would be
fine, visiting a stranger in their home is totally different.

Well, it didn't have a marriage ending... we hit it off, became good
friends, I met all his friends and got to know the town, but I didn't
want to live there. I didn't want to live with him, he was kind of a
slob and didn't want to clean things (but he did clean the bathroom
for me, but not the kitchen). I have maybe four good friends, and this
guy I met off the Internet 10 years ago is one of them. I'd go and
visit him any time, and have been down his way a few times since we
met.

Not everything ends up being either marriage-perfect, or completely
psychotic. I just made my intentions clear, "let's meet, let's hang
out, you have a job and can't take time off to come to Canada, so why
don't I head down there for two weeks when school let's out for the
summer?" I left after two weeks, and that was fine.

Perhaps your boyfriend would be better off getting an open ended
ticket? Haven't you ever seen the episode of Seinfeld where Elaine
couldn't wait to ditch her scumbag boyfriend that she flew in on her
frequent flier miles? Maybe you won't like him, and will want him to
leave a lot sooner... and if he has a flexible end date, then he can
always stay longer than a couple of weeks if things work out.


S.
 
Old Mar 18th 2007, 6:15 am
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On Mar 17, 10:00 pm, Taterbug <[email protected]>
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> Yeah get to know him first or at least wait to see what he looks like in
> person ......you can do some real nifty "morphing" tricks on the
> computer easily these days. Life is like a box of chocolates....you
> never know what you're gonna git!! You may think you are getting Brad
> Pitt and you end out with Lyle Lovett!! LOL

That's why I don't date hot guys I meet online... (never have, but I'm
happily with the one I love, so those days of pick and choose are
behind me now).

Last "hot guy" I met, sent me a picture that was a few years old.
Since taking his desk job at the tender age of 23, he got a beer belly
and a fat face. Funny how he didn't send me any of *those* pictures.
Just the photo from when he looked hunkalicious and worked out a lot
with the flat 6-pack.

So if I met someone online, and they looked kind of ordinary (or even
ugly) in the photo. At least I knew what I was getting. And some
people aren't too photogenic... So even the ugly looked better in
person.

Hunk-shopping is always a bad idea, and even in person, you can't tell
what someone's really like anyway. A full of himself guy will say
anything to go to bed with a pretty girl... the guys who work in the
shop I work at comment frequently, so it's very nice to hear that
point of view from someone who isn't trying to impress me.

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
Well... I see I've arrived late to the party! I'm also in Kentucky... over on the east side of the state where men go to family reunions to get a date. Are you from this neck of the woods... or from the more civilized central area of the commonwealth?

Ian
lol...i'm from central Kentucky..lol. I do own shoes, many in fact, i have a full set of teeth, and to my knowledge, never dated a relative..lmao
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Originally Posted by Sapphyre
On Mar 17, 12:24 pm, Deedee13 <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Is this his first trip to the USA, and he is going to book his return
> flight for 3 months down the road on his first trip. I think this alone
> is going to put up some red flags when he enters.

FWIW, when I met the guy I had been talking to online (I met him 10
years ago, we talked online for three years, meeting wasn't feasible,
and we weren't a couple online either, just people who knew each other
from different countries), I booked a ticket with a flexible return
date and intended to be in the US for two weeks.

I arranged for someone I knew to meet me at the airport and put me up
for a night before making the 200 mile journey to meet my friend. My
Bay-Area friend and his wife came with me to make sure I'd be okay in
the town I was staying at, it was nice of them to look out for me.
(This Bay-Area friend is someone I also knew for a few years). I had
my butt covered for safety, told my dad everywhere I'd be, phone
numbers, etc.

The flexible return option was mainly so if I hated the guy on sight,
I wouldn't be stuck paying for a hotel/motel for two weeks while
waiting for my flight out. I didn't want to be stuck visiting someone
I might not get along with. Although I thought everything would be
fine, visiting a stranger in their home is totally different.

Well, it didn't have a marriage ending... we hit it off, became good
friends, I met all his friends and got to know the town, but I didn't
want to live there. I didn't want to live with him, he was kind of a
slob and didn't want to clean things (but he did clean the bathroom
for me, but not the kitchen). I have maybe four good friends, and this
guy I met off the Internet 10 years ago is one of them. I'd go and
visit him any time, and have been down his way a few times since we
met.

Not everything ends up being either marriage-perfect, or completely
psychotic. I just made my intentions clear, "let's meet, let's hang
out, you have a job and can't take time off to come to Canada, so why
don't I head down there for two weeks when school let's out for the
summer?" I left after two weeks, and that was fine.

Perhaps your boyfriend would be better off getting an open ended
ticket? Haven't you ever seen the episode of Seinfeld where Elaine
couldn't wait to ditch her scumbag boyfriend that she flew in on her
frequent flier miles? Maybe you won't like him, and will want him to
leave a lot sooner... and if he has a flexible end date, then he can
always stay longer than a couple of weeks if things work out.


S.
I don't mean to sound like a complete idiot <wince>, but is it when he reaches the US that he could be denied or when he leaves the UK?
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Originally Posted by kissalicious1975
I don't mean to sound like a complete idiot <wince>, but is it when he reaches the US that he could be denied or when he leaves the UK?
When he reaches the U.S.

And then he would be detained, (jail?) I think, overnight if there isn't a flight back until the next day, which will probably be the case.

The other posters are right, this is immigration fraud. I met my fiance on the internet, we met, and he's home in the UK waiting for the visa.

If some of us sound crabby, it is because we are doing (or did) it the right (legal) way, and are enduring time apart. And then you come in saying it's all right for you to ignore all that and get what you want right now. Therefore, we're a little crabby.

Also, on a kinder note, you can't really know a person just online. You can know them a lot, but there is certainly a lot more you find out in person. I'd recommend spending that visit getting to know each other, and I hope he is all that you want.
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Originally Posted by Tracym
When he reaches the U.S.

And then he would be detained, (jail?) I think, overnight if there isn't a flight back until the next day, which will probably be the case.

The other posters are right, this is immigration fraud. I met my fiance on the internet, we met, and he's home in the UK waiting for the visa.

If some of us sound crabby, it is because we are doing (or did) it the right (legal) way, and are enduring time apart. And then you come in saying it's all right for you to ignore all that and get what you want right now. Therefore, we're a little crabby.

Also, on a kinder note, you can't really know a person just online. You can know them a lot, but there is certainly a lot more you find out in person. I'd recommend spending that visit getting to know each other, and I hope he is all that you want.
So if we went the K-1 route, how long would he have to go back home for, roughly?
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Originally Posted by kissalicious1975
So if we went the K-1 route, how long would he have to go back home for, roughly?
I've been told 6 months or so. We were told that the first part (the petition) is currently taking about 5 months. Then another month or two for the visa.

That is if everything goes smoothly. It is not impossible for delays to occur such as name checks being delayed. Hopefully not though.

I suppose my fiance could have visited me again this summer, and probably would have gotten in, and we could have married and he could have stayed. But, if that was discovered as our intent we would have risked having adjustment denied, and he could be sent home. We would not want to take that chance, and are doing it the legal way.

You do realize that even after you marry, you are asking the govt. to let him stay. It is not impossible to be denied, and him to be sent home, even if you are married. Probably unlikely though.

You need to be aware of any major medical history, or any criminal/drug history that he has, since that can cause problems.

Finally, perhaps this will be helpful - we fly him in through Dublin - there he will be cleared before he gets on the plane, and if sent back will not be detained. And a shorter trip back. Shannon works too I think.
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tracy, going to dublin may incur more cost for him. and then cause more questions as to why he would go that route and not the direct route, especially on his first one.

i met my hubby on an internet dating site. and this time last year was coming over to visit him - this year were married and living together. How time flies when ur having fun. lol. Was i scared when i met him - YUP!!! i think i got to know him better doing it online than had we been face to face.

Cant beat a good hour of telephone S E X!!! lmfao. Someone just choke on thier toast did they? Infact been looking around for a set of them phones we used to get as kids for xmas cant find them anywhere DAMN!!!!
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Originally Posted by Deedee13
tracy, going to dublin may incur more cost for him. and then cause more questions as to why he would go that route and not the direct route, especially on his first one.

i met my hubby on an internet dating site. and this time last year was coming over to visit him - this year were married and living together. How time flies when ur having fun. lol. Was i scared when i met him - YUP!!! i think i got to know him better doing it online than had we been face to face.

Cant beat a good hour of telephone S E X!!! lmfao. Someone just choke on thier toast did they? Infact been looking around for a set of them phones we used to get as kids for xmas cant find them anywhere DAMN!!!!
Webcams DeeDee.... Webcams! Voice AND video.

We did get to know each other very well online, you always find out a few things face to face though.

Actually, he has never been questioned in Dublin regarding the route, and has done it a number of times. If asked, he would simply say - just in case of any problem, I'd rather know before I got on the plane and go home.

Plus, as far as the cost, that is possible. But, out of Dublin he flies Aerlingus, and the price Glasgow to Chicago has generally been better with them than we've found elsewhere.
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