Intelligent Design Theory
Dec 13th 2005, 9:10 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by camelot
As I've already stated, I'm no expert when it comes to scientific issues I only know snippets, like reading the book rincewood recommended. Science is a discipline and I haven't studied it properly so I can't treat it as thoroughly as I have on the other things I'm talking about. But that doesn't mean I have no respect I have huge respect. Sorry I'm not intelligent about it, and yes I don't deny that I have bias, although I would question its strength, I try to be objective, which is hard on a forum.
I'm very interested to know what beliefs you lost exactly?
I'm very interested to know what beliefs you lost exactly?
with regard to beliefs, all I lost is all which is demanded of me in CoE... a belief in Christ as the son of god, and a belief that such an amazing being would judge such an insignificant being for their behaviour.
Dec 13th 2005, 9:16 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by camelot
Well actually cutina that post was directed at rincewind. But I haven't said things aren't explainable....I'm saying there's answers but people may not find them if they're relying solely on logic and reason.....
No I haven't put you as an individual into a box, far from it, I'm saying humans are much more complex and multi-faceted than that.....Like why can't a scientist believe ID? According to most of the posts on this thread you'd be a nut to believe ID but why does that have to be the case?
No I haven't put you as an individual into a box, far from it, I'm saying humans are much more complex and multi-faceted than that.....Like why can't a scientist believe ID? According to most of the posts on this thread you'd be a nut to believe ID but why does that have to be the case?
Dec 13th 2005, 9:16 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by cutina
they can, and i never said otherwise!!!
Dec 13th 2005, 9:17 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by cutina
i know, you've stated it several times, but you still insist on posting your opinion as fact, for example, with reagrd to love being unexplainable.
with regard to beliefs, all I lost is all which is demanded of me in CoE... a belief in Christ as the son of god, and a belief that such an amazing being would judge such an insignificant being for their behaviour.
with regard to beliefs, all I lost is all which is demanded of me in CoE... a belief in Christ as the son of god, and a belief that such an amazing being would judge such an insignificant being for their behaviour.
Beliefs: So, did you lose religion or faith?
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Dec 13th 2005, 9:18 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by cutina
people can believe what they like, just don't pretend that it is a science
Dec 13th 2005, 9:19 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by camelot
but what about the power of love? or the destruction of hate? there is no logic or reason most of the time to those two in particular, and what about the presence of the forces of good and evil? How does logic and reason grapple with those issues, because those are the issues of who we really are at our core...............
Dec 13th 2005, 9:20 pm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4488328.stm
I found this quite interesting - he got bashed by quite a few scientists for it mind!
I found this quite interesting - he got bashed by quite a few scientists for it mind!
Dec 13th 2005, 9:26 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by Big D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4488328.stm
I found this quite interesting - he got bashed by quite a few scientists for it mind!
I found this quite interesting - he got bashed by quite a few scientists for it mind!
Dec 13th 2005, 9:49 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by camelot
Wrong, the animals weren't created to be his companiions, if you read the entire scripture God is bringing the man to the animals to see if there are any suitable companion for the man, but they "had" already been formed. There turns out to be no suitable companion so then God makes Eve.
The issue of companionship comes after the creation (at least of the animals and Adam) not before.
Are you basing your interpretation on the animals sole purpose for existence as being companionship for the man?
The fact that God says "I will make" a helper doesn't trouble me too much because it's already clear that the animals are made. Maybe God already considered that the animals possibly might not have been suitable but he checked it out with the man first, to give the man the option?? God may already have been considering that he was going to have to make Eve or something else. That's reasonable.
I've given the details of my bible, you can go check it out at the bookstore, I have no reason to lie, or construe anything. If you want me post it word for word on here for everyone though I can do that to, if it helps, let me know.
The issue of companionship comes after the creation (at least of the animals and Adam) not before.
Are you basing your interpretation on the animals sole purpose for existence as being companionship for the man?
The fact that God says "I will make" a helper doesn't trouble me too much because it's already clear that the animals are made. Maybe God already considered that the animals possibly might not have been suitable but he checked it out with the man first, to give the man the option?? God may already have been considering that he was going to have to make Eve or something else. That's reasonable.
I've given the details of my bible, you can go check it out at the bookstore, I have no reason to lie, or construe anything. If you want me post it word for word on here for everyone though I can do that to, if it helps, let me know.
Dec 13th 2005, 9:52 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Anyone fancy a pint?
Dec 13th 2005, 9:57 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by rincewind
Anyone fancy a pint?
Dec 13th 2005, 9:59 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by cutina
ABSOLUTELY! I'll have one...
Dec 13th 2005, 10:01 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Ahem. I think you should all be buying me one! With this being MY party!
but is it normal for the host to leave the guests all alone for so long?
... for you
Dec 13th 2005, 10:22 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by cutina
I'm sorry, but as a worshipper of the church of Egg, I am offended by that statement
Dec 13th 2005, 10:28 pm
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Re: Intelligent Design Theory
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Ahem. I think you should all be buying me one! With this being MY party!
It's my round.