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Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Apologies if my generalizations didn't take account of the exceptions. :)
The US military certainly have more opportunity if they take it to claim some cultural competency in a foreign country than, say, a Brit holidaymaker in Orlando for 2 weeks has to claim they have some understanding of Yank culture. However, claiming to have cultural knowledge from travelling abroad as US military may or may not hold true; as you say, it all depends on the person. Conversely a person emigrating successfully to a foreign country must possess cultural competency, otherwise they simply would not survive. |
Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Yep -- did the Yank thing to my teeth to assimilate properly (and, of course for the benefit of my dentist's nice new Boxster). Also get to enjoy constant lectures at check-ups about how my smoking and espresso fixes are ruining her fine work. I explain that it's in my blood, part of my cultural heritage, but she seems not to understand.
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Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by edwords
Living in fear? At least I can wear my baseball cap here!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...nt/4534903.stm |
Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by ironporer
I also am puzzled as to how some here can't seem to find one single thing that is acceptable to them.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=292722 |
Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by Hiro11
Have you ever been to Japan?
I am absolutely amazed at some of the responses from yanks about my accent, language and the country I came from. Example. (this is my fav stupid question) Her:I like your accent, wheres it from, is it Irish? Me:no, its English Her:Oh, what language do they speak in England? is it Dutch? This is not a seldom thing... I sometimes get this kind of thing on a day to day basis at work. Ash :) |
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Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by ironporer
While I certainly must defend the right of freedom of speach each and everyone has here in the US, I also am puzzled as to how some here can't seem to find one single thing that is acceptable to them. I just have to think that there many who simply love to complain about anything and everything and whose main mission in life is to be miserable. I do wonder how their US spouses handle such a degree of misery though.
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Kids, its sad but true. Most of us Americans are ignorant MFers! Its scary and the more south you go the worse it gets, true. But they are everywhere.
There are enlightened people all over this land. Not all of them are in cities either. Quite a few country folk can't stand Bush either. I am moving to France. Enjoy the dirtballs! |
Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by ironporer
I do wonder how their US spouses handle such a degree of misery though.
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Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by ironporer
I am sure the majority, perhaps the vast majority have many things they love here...as it should be with any ex-pat in most any land. My comment was to those sad few who never seem to find any good in any thing. And believe me- I have seen as many Americans who find nothing of value in other lands as well. I suppose it's a glass half full/ glass half empty thing...and if one would rather be miserable or happy.
Ever since I have been here, it has been nothing but hell dealing with my wife's divorce from previous relationship, her ex, in-laws, close-minded relations, the debts that I've built for the first time in my life and all the red tape I've been strangled by. I'm sure if my wife were never married before, her parents were friendly and I started or work for a successful Web company earning $100,000 + a year, I would be very happy indeed right now. So far, my experience of the US has been crap and the day will finally come when I'll crack and move back to Blighty. |
Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by Bob
Only notice the whinge because we're all here on this site ain't we...out in the real world we probably don't bitch as much, well I don't...but the missus bitches about a lot of this stuff about americans too....
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I am a big believer that the Freedom of Speech is there specifically to allow people to say negative or controversial things about a country, person, president, religion...etc...
What would be the point of having a freedom to say whatever you want if everyone agreed with everyone else? I have regularly got into "discussions" with people who are certain that America is the best thing since sliced bread... If they expect me to keep quiet about the negatives of America they should respect that, as a non-American, I may have an alternative view point. Just because we are immigrants, does not mean that we all came here looking for a better life (as early immigrants did) or to escape some form of persecution... I came here because I married an American, and she is closer to her family than I am to mine. My wife regularly says that if Brits can complain, they will complain. I moaned about England and, if I have something to moan about, I'll moan about America too. Nowhere is perfect... Anyone who thinks that their situation is the utopian ideal clearly needs to get out more. :) |
Re: Ignorant USC
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Nope -- they live like Americans in America. They eat Yank things, play Yank sports, get shiny white Yank teeth off swarmy Yank dentists etc., whether or not they actually live on the base. When they leave the base to see more of the country, they usually do so more as tourists rather than residents. Their lifeline is the base and they could not function without it. The point is that they aren't living there in the same way as someone who has emigrated to another country.
In your case, there was probably more a little more assimilation into the host country. But that was surely an exception rather than the rule. Ahh like the Brits in America, buying English foods and products online, in stores, getting them in care packages from relatives back "home", play footie or is that footsie, get drunk on imported British lager, get loud and obnoxious with their other British cronies in the taverns of North Carolina where the enclave of Brits probably outnumber the Yanks ... and believe that their viewpoints, opinions and lifestyles are the only proper way to be ... screw everyone and everything else ... Very narrow minded and intolerate of you. Yup no difference whatsoever. |
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Originally Posted by rincewind
I think the major factor is how your experience of the US goes.
Ever since I have been here, it has been nothing but hell dealing with my wife's divorce from previous relationship, her ex, in-laws, close-minded relations, the debts that I've built for the first time in my life and all the red tape I've been strangled by. I'm sure if my wife were never married before, her parents were friendly and I started or work for a successful Web company earning $100,000 + a year, I would be very happy indeed right now. So far, my experience of the US has been crap and the day will finally come when I'll crack and move back to Blighty. I don't see that as your experience with America. It is, however, your experience with your relatives by marriage. Might well have been the same experience if you married a Brit with an ex-husband and the in-laws from hell. |
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Originally Posted by Rete
I don't see that as your experience with America. It is, however, your experience with your relatives by marriage. Might well have been the same experience if you married a Brit with an ex-husband and the in-laws from hell.
But I wanted to emigrate BEFORE I got married. Should have followed through with it. That was BEFORE the crappy in-laws, the bitter divorce, and its financial costs. Now I just want to go even more -- but the reign of Bush the Lesser has accelerated that, not just the divorce. |
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