I Need Help.
 

Hey guys,

I'm in real need of peoples help/experience, I'm hoping that maybe someone could shed some light for me :)

Well currently I'm in college studying an ICT national diploma, and then i am going to university to study Ethical hacking and Information Security to gain my bachelors degree.

I have always wanted to move to America, but i just cant think of the best way to go around it. I've looked into all the visas and routes, but there is always a catch to them.

I was wondering if someone could just help me with the following questions :)

1. With that degree, how is the current demand for that area in America?
2. What would be the best way to go about looking for jobs?
3. What would you do?

Many thanks guys :)

Alex

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Your best bet is to get a job in the UK with a business with a US presence. Then look at a transfer when one is available.

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Have a look at the wiki, http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Pulask...ork_in_the_USA

That'll essentially show if you have a way in.

Best way, marry a US citizen, other wise look for a company that has a US presence and will transfer you.

At the moment, the market is not great, you've also got no niche skills or experiences that anyone would bother with the hassle and cost. Get a job for a few years and work on it....either niches skills, or niche company knowledge.

As for looking for a job, just like any other job. Network, linkedin, craigslist, uni alumni etc.

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I can understand university for an IS degree, but if you want to study ethical hacking, I suggest EC-Council... it's the de facto standard in EH in the US.


By "catch"... do you mean eligibility requirements that you don't meet?


Demand is mediocre, at best, with a Bachelor's degree in InfoSec... it's much more lucrative with a Master's in InfoSec and CISSP qualifications.

You need to think of the US as a long-term goal... but in the short term, what about going to school in the US? Research the F-1 visa.

Ian

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Thanks Bob for your thoughts, yeah if only i could find a US female to marry :D.

With my University course Ian, it would give me a similar qualification as the EC-Council, but i shall take a look into that site :)

Yeah with the visa catch, i just found that you either have to be rich, have an amazing skill or have alot of work experiance in that area. I dont fit under any of those.

I was looking into American Universities last year, but the price of them are massive for foreign students, so im now stuck doing a degree in England.

I just dont know where to go, because i want to settle down in America after university. Does anyone know if there is a semi visa which would suit me?

Many thanks guys for the replies :)

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If you can get a graduate teachinig assistantship, some universities will waive international and state tuition, plus pay a stipend for, typically, 13-20 hours of teaching-associated work per week (teaching, marking, etc.).

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Okay... good. I only mentioned it because CEH is considered the gold standard in the US, and a "similar qualification" may not have the same impact! :)


You don't fit under any of those... yet!


Other than something like BUNAC, there isn't. As I suggested, getting to the US should be your long-term goal... there is no easy method.

Ian

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Are you really that much of a minger? Can you at least do a bit of a Hugh Grant accent?

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Thanks Ian :) im looking into the EC-Council, i may actually after univerity, try and do that. Yeah i know it's long term, but i'll be 25 when i leave university, feeling a bit old :( .

Lol no im not, well i hope not haha. If only it was that easy :p

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I'm in my 50s... and started a PhD last year. You're just a young sprout! Perspective helps, eh?

Ian

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:D what are you taking your PhD in? Yeah it does help, 2 great ideas have come to my head now, im going to look into EC-Council and the teaching assistantship.

This may sound bad but, i look at some people being excepted into America and given a Visa, and i just cant believe that type of person can get in when a future University degree holder finds it like super hard hehe.

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What kind of people do you see being "excepted into America" then?

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Bunch of sprout eating farty derelicts as far as I can tell.

Of course, there's an acception to every rule. :)

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At least they beget beautiful children ;)

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Well its a personal thought, but just people who i think arnt bringing anything into the country, i know they get in because they have family over there, just seems a bit strange.

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But what would you be bringing to America? Any bugger can get a degree, and it's not as if you have any work experience. It seems a tad rich pointing at others and accusing them of not being able to contribute to the country, surely?

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How nice of you to ask - Computing Technology in Education. :)


All the people I work with are CEHs via EC-Council. My boss and I are also CHFIs. Oh... did I mention that I work in Computer Forensics?


Umm... I think you mean "accepted"... because "excepted" has the exact opposite meaning! :)

Ian

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Tonrob, i would be bringing the aspect of self support, not having to borrow off the goverment and the high aspect of starting a business. I agree that anyone can get a degree, but there are plenty of useless ones going around universities.

Ooo nice Ian :D i hope it all goes very well for you :). My dream job hehe :), if you dont mind me asking, who do you work for? So would getting the qualification from EC-Council, improve my employability rate?

Yeah really sorry about my poor spelling, i spend all day on the computer at college, come home and i just type away hehe.

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Who is 'borrowing off the government'?

Are you saying that you're wanting to start your own business here, or what exactly?

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Ok i'll give a pure example, in england, a person from a lesser wealthy country will come over to england, they will then bring their family over and claim a fair amount of benifits, that is what i am trying to show with my other statement.

And with the business, yes i aim to set one up after i have managed to settle down in America and get to know all the trade laws etc :)

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Sooooo.... the standards for getting into both the UK and the US are too low, but you still don't qualify?
And you'll start your own business once you do get in.

It might be good for you to read some immigrant stories that don't support your thesis. You know, just for the practice.

(My family member got in off the relationship AND started his own business.. where does that slot in again?) :lol:

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So, in other words - you'll bring some savings (I'm assuming that's what you mean by self-support) so you don't have to claim benefits (that don't really exist here anyway), and you have some vague notion about being able to start a business despite the fact that you have no meaningful qualifications or experience?

I'm not sure why you think you're any "better" than other immigrants, as right now if anything the opposite seems to be true.

If I were you I'd be trying to get my shit together in my own country to begin and leave serious thoughts of emigrating until you've found something you're good at.

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My husband "got in" to the USA based on his relationship to me (I'm a USC), so that would be the type of person you're talking about. Why is it strange that he would want to join his family (me) in the USA? Isn't it normal for married people to want to live together on one continent? :confused:

Rene

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uh oh.. yours started a business too!

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Indeed! Came to the USA in 2004 with 1 suitcase of clothes, 1 suitcase of rug repair equipment, and about $1,000. That's it. Now a successful self-employed business owner! And mine's from a 3rd world country. LOL

Rene

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You need serious help

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Well thankyou for the intial replies, they have helped alot in opening my mind towards different routes i can take. As for the others, i dont want to bother replying due to the fact that everyones thoughts and judgments are different.

Many thanks guys.

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In all honesty you'd do well not to filter the replies between ones that are nice to hear and ones that are not. Maturity would tell you that you tend to learn more from the latter.

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^ Nice one!

America loves immigrants who want to succeed and integrate as well as contribute to society. We have structured our immigration laws to (theoretically) facilitate that. Do not make blanket statements as to the "quality" of immigrants. Our immigration system usually worries about that. If you come to America, you should understand and appreciate that diversity in all its shapes and forms makes America the great nation it is today. After you immigrate you are expected to contribute to society whether it is through your employment or through a business you start or whether it is through community service. We are all descendants of immigrants in one shape and form. Probably even the American Indians are as well as theories suggest that they migrated to this continent from Russia.

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That’s none of your business. If what you are saying is that a matter of fact, then that’s the issue with Immigration System and Welfare benefit system there in UK.