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Old Oct 17th 2011, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
Seems to be plenty a good defense attorney could get their teeth in to. Did any of the medical professionals remark on your apparent intoxication? Did the fall result in concussion such that you were temporarily unable to understand the police officer's request? Did the hospital administer pain killers that resulted in you being temporarily unable to understand the police officer's request? Etc.
I think you are right. A good attorney might make a difference. The doctor who was treating me just called a cab and watched me walk out of the building. I thought at the time that as I had been arrested the cop was going to put me in jail for the night. I realized later that he probably had all he needed after I refused the test. As I said, what a mess.
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Old Oct 17th 2011, 10:51 pm
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As this is clearly serious with the possibilty of jail time run it by at least two or three lawyers and get their take and track record on dealing with similar cases.
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Old Oct 17th 2011, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Chugabug
Thanks mate, I appreciate it. Unfortunately even though I didn't drink much, my bad choice of refusing the test will probably not play out well for me. Heck, if I read this myself and it involved someone else I'd be questioning that decision. It was the circumstances and me not thinking things through. Looks like I'll be paying dearly for it though.
Don't beat yourself up about it - it's the kind of daft decision any of us would make, if we were drunk.
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Were any blood tests taken at the hospital as a matter of course? If they were, you may want to have your attorney have them ordered to an independent lab facility to have it tested for blood alcohol content. In the meantime, get yourself a good DUI attorney. I can only speak to situations in California, but the State is obligated to show proof of driving. If some lady came by 5-10 min after the fact, who would have actually seen you driving and what time? For all they know, you could've been in that ravine for 2+ more hours.

Now, it's not like I'm trying to get your case dismissed if you are guilty. I work on the prosecution side and spent over a year working the DUI desk (I am not an attorney). I'm just aware of some of the elements that must be proven. Also, you may want to check to see if DMV has indeed suspended your license, and they have, or if it's in the works, check to see DMV has hearing you can schedule regarding your license.
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Originally Posted by Moonshadow_Girl
Were any blood tests taken at the hospital as a matter of course? If they were, you may want to have your attorney have them ordered to an independent lab facility to have it tested for blood alcohol content. In the meantime, get yourself a good DUI attorney. I can only speak to situations in California, but the State is obligated to show proof of driving. If some lady came by 5-10 min after the fact, who would have actually seen you driving and what time? For all they know, you could've been in that ravine for 2+ more hours.

Now, it's not like I'm trying to get your case dismissed if you are guilty. I work on the prosecution side and spent over a year working the DUI desk (I am not an attorney). I'm just aware of some of the elements that must be proven. Also, you may want to check to see if DMV has indeed suspended your license, and they have, or if it's in the works, check to see DMV has hearing you can schedule regarding your license.
Thanks again for taking the time to reply. I will look into this.
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Old Oct 18th 2011, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by Chugabug
So there I was riding home after a recent motorcycle festival here and I was being tailgated by a car. Decided to pull over and let them by as it was a narrow road. Stopped the bike and put my foot out only to find no verge just a shallow ditch that the road dropped away into.
Can't help with the rest but I can relate to the thread title and this paragraph... My wife and I were travelling with her parents to her brother's place in the Philippines. I'd never driven in the Philippines but thought it worth a challenge. We were in the last dregs of a monsoon so there was debris strewn across the road, one stretch of road had waves crashing across it from the adjacent sea meaning no visibility for several seconds at a time, and yet I managed to drive for three hours without incident. Until I got within sight of her brother's house. There was a dog in the road and the easiest thing was to drive around it, just touching the grass verge at the side of the road. That grass verge turned out to be a concrete drainage ditch with rather long grass growing out of it. Cue two wheels into the ditch . Almost more embarrassingly, being in a town by now, several people saw it, and even more came to help lift the car out of the ditch. The shame!

Hope that makes you feel at least a little better!
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Originally Posted by Chugabug
I think you are right. A good attorney might make a difference. The doctor who was treating me just called a cab and watched me walk out of the building. I thought at the time that as I had been arrested the cop was going to put me in jail for the night. I realized later that he probably had all he needed after I refused the test. As I said, what a mess.

In the ER did they take blood by chance? Hopefully they did and it can be tested for the alcohol level in your blood.
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In the ER did they take blood by chance? Hopefully they did and it can be tested for the alcohol level in your blood.
It is highly unlikely they would have kept it unless requested by either the patient or the police officer. Even then the doctor would have to authorize it.
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Old Oct 18th 2011, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Chugabug
So there I was riding home after a recent motorcycle festival here and I was being tailgated by a car. Decided to pull over and let them by as it was a narrow road. Stopped the bike and put my foot out only to find no verge just a shallow ditch that the road dropped away into. My bike is super heavy, I couldn't hold it up and It fell over like a tree being cut down. So there I was on the side of the road feeling like a complete idiot and not able to get out from under the bike. After about 5 minutes a lady stops, panics and calls an ambulance. From there on both the police and firemen show up. I tell them I really just need help getting the bike upright but they insist I go to hospital and get looked at just in case. So there I am laying in a hospital bed awaiting x-ray when the policeman shows up again and wants a blood test because he suspects I've been drinking. Now I'd only had a couple of pints during the course of the evening but for some reason in my annoyed state I decided to refuse. So he arrested me, took my license, got me to sign a form and left me in the hospital bed.

So here I am now with a DWI charge hanging over my head. I firstly can't believe I was stupid enough to refuse the blood test as now they will throw the book at me. Secondly I accept I shouldn't have had a drink at all but these things happen at bike festivals. I had a completely clean license up until now, not even a speeding ticket after 12 years of living here. The charges I'm facing are serious, I mean not just losing my license but possible jail time. I had no idea this was even possible on a first offense.

Anyway, I just wondered if anyone here had any experience of this and could give me some advice? Apart from don't ever drink a thing and drive again.


Whoops...........

Is the bike ok
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Old Oct 18th 2011, 1:55 pm
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Whoops...........

Is the bike ok
Yep, bike was fine. It was hardly what I'd call an accident as I wasn't moving forward at the time. The bike fell onto it's side into the grass. Of course the police had it taken away and it cost me $200 to get it out of the compound.
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What model was the bike ? even a spill in the ditch can chalk up a hefty repair bill for replacement plastic.
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There are lawyers who specialise in cases with bikers, look in the yellow pages for one or ask around. I'd even look up local bike clubs online and ask them.
http://www.themotorcyclelawyer.com/a..._attorney.html

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Old Oct 18th 2011, 3:19 pm
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What model was the bike ? even a spill in the ditch can chalk up a hefty repair bill for replacement plastic.
It's a 2007 Honda VTX 1800 C with only 4000 miles on it. I picked it up earlier this year. Beautiful bike with many extras. Not a scratch on it fortunately.
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There are lawyers who specialise in cases with bikers, look in the yellow pages for one or ask around. I'd even look up local bike clubs online and ask them.
http://www.themotorcyclelawyer.com/a..._attorney.html
Thanks. I appreciate it.
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Old Oct 18th 2011, 4:19 pm
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I'm missing something here. Under what power was the OP forced into a hospital bed? Is this a state specific thing or, by such an act as asking a police officer a question, can I be whisked off the street and forced to incur medical bills? Strange.
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