How does INS monitor departures?
Oct 23rd 2002, 5:02 pm
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How does INS monitor departures?
Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the country?
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Oct 23rd 2002, 6:39 pm
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Re: How does INS monitor departures?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
> Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the country?
The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my understanding
that this data goes to INS.
The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of international
flights to INS.
> Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the country?
The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my understanding
that this data goes to INS.
The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of international
flights to INS.
Oct 23rd 2002, 7:07 pm
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Re: How does INS monitor departures?
[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Joachim Feise:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
> Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the country?
The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my understanding
that this data goes to INS.
The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of international
flights to INS.
Do you know if this a new law?
A friend of mine is a GC-Holder and travels quite regularly
but his card or passport never get swiped...
I know that INS tried this automated I-94 thing but I guess they cancelled it due to financial reasons.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
> Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the country?
The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my understanding
that this data goes to INS.
The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of international
flights to INS.
Do you know if this a new law?
A friend of mine is a GC-Holder and travels quite regularly
but his card or passport never get swiped...
I know that INS tried this automated I-94 thing but I guess they cancelled it due to financial reasons.
Oct 23rd 2002, 8:26 pm
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Re: How does INS monitor departures?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:07:11 -0700, Gelsey wrote:
> Originally posted by Joachim Feise:
>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
>> > Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the
>> country?
>> The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my
>> understanding
>> that this data goes to INS.
>> The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of international
>> flights to INS.
>> Do you know if this a new law?
>> A friend of mine is a GC-Holder and travels quite regularly but his
>> card or passport never get swiped...
There are several different reasons why this may be the case. First, the
airline may already have his passport number on file if he is a frequent
flyer, and they may just check that his passport is the same when he used
on previous trips.
Or he may not have realized that the airline swipes the passport when he
checks in.
>> I know that INS tried this automated I-94 thing but I guess they
>> cancelled it due to financial reasons.
I'm not sure which automated I-94 thing you are talking about. INSPASS?
That is alive and well, but only available at a few airports. I just saw
INSPASS machines at LAX airport a few weeks ago (Tom Bradley Terminal
only, as far as I know).
> Originally posted by Joachim Feise:
>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
>> > Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the
>> country?
>> The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my
>> understanding
>> that this data goes to INS.
>> The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of international
>> flights to INS.
>> Do you know if this a new law?
>> A friend of mine is a GC-Holder and travels quite regularly but his
>> card or passport never get swiped...
There are several different reasons why this may be the case. First, the
airline may already have his passport number on file if he is a frequent
flyer, and they may just check that his passport is the same when he used
on previous trips.
Or he may not have realized that the airline swipes the passport when he
checks in.
>> I know that INS tried this automated I-94 thing but I guess they
>> cancelled it due to financial reasons.
I'm not sure which automated I-94 thing you are talking about. INSPASS?
That is alive and well, but only available at a few airports. I just saw
INSPASS machines at LAX airport a few weeks ago (Tom Bradley Terminal
only, as far as I know).
Oct 23rd 2002, 9:56 pm
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Re: How does INS monitor departures?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
> Originally posted by Joachim Feise:
> > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
> > > Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the
> > country?
> >
> > The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my
> > understanding
> > that this data goes to INS.
> > The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of
> > international
> > flights to INS.
> >
> > Do you know if this a new law?
> >
> > A friend of mine is a GC-Holder and travels quite regularly
> > but his card or passport never get swiped...
I think that they always did that, and your friend just didn't pay
attention to it.
I have heard that a recent change (after 9/11) is that they actually submit
the data electronically to INS.
-Joe
> Originally posted by Joachim Feise:
> > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Gelsey wrote:
> > > Does anybody know how the INS knows if a GC-Holder has left the
> > country?
> >
> > The airlines swipe either the GC or the passport. It is my
> > understanding
> > that this data goes to INS.
> > The airlines also have to give the passenger manifests of
> > international
> > flights to INS.
> >
> > Do you know if this a new law?
> >
> > A friend of mine is a GC-Holder and travels quite regularly
> > but his card or passport never get swiped...
I think that they always did that, and your friend just didn't pay
attention to it.
I have heard that a recent change (after 9/11) is that they actually submit
the data electronically to INS.
-Joe
Oct 23rd 2002, 10:02 pm
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Re: How does INS monitor departures?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:07:11 -0700, Gelsey wrote:
> >> I know that INS tried this automated I-94 thing but I guess they
> >> cancelled it due to financial reasons.
> I'm not sure which automated I-94 thing you are talking about.
Some years ago, INS had a pilot program, trying issuance of automatic
I-94s as part of the boarding pass with certain airlines and certain
routes to Europe.
See http://www.in-
s.gov/graphics/lawenfor/bmgmt/inspect/auto.htm
-Joe
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:07:11 -0700, Gelsey wrote:
> >> I know that INS tried this automated I-94 thing but I guess they
> >> cancelled it due to financial reasons.
> I'm not sure which automated I-94 thing you are talking about.
Some years ago, INS had a pilot program, trying issuance of automatic
I-94s as part of the boarding pass with certain airlines and certain
routes to Europe.
See http://www.in-
s.gov/graphics/lawenfor/bmgmt/inspect/auto.htm
-Joe
