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Old Jul 19th 2019, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by newadventure
So the rate of return you need to get on your hypothetical $100K to make it worth investing rather than paying off mortgage is (mortgage rate - ((itemised amount - standard deduction)/$100K). Is that right? I've got Friday afternoon brain
No, you either get an itemised or standard deduction and mortgage interest has also been capped on a principle of $750k, you have to take in to account the tax bracket as well. It also gets more complicated, if that return is income it's also taxed each year, vs if you can make a capital gain its take when you take it and likely at a lower rate.

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Old Jul 21st 2019, 4:15 am
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we rented out our surrey home. You will probably underestimate the additional costs you will need to pay to keep the property rented - ie periods with no tenant - having to fix unexpected leaks, breakdowns damage etc. Things like boilers need replacing etc. we made money on our rental but its not as much as you think as the tenants are always breaking something. If you leave ANY appliances then factor in their replacement periodically. painting touch ups between tenants etc.

also remember if things change and you want to sell it for whatever reason - CGT can bite you very hard if the exchange rate goes in the wrong direction. we got stung for over 60k, for a paper profit because of the exchange rate when we bought it (even though this was years before we moved to the us)
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Old Jul 21st 2019, 9:17 am
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we rented out our surrey home. You will probably underestimate the additional costs you will need to pay to keep the property rented - ie periods with no tenant - having to fix unexpected leaks, breakdowns damage etc. Things like boilers need replacing etc. we made money on our rental but its not as much as you think as the tenants are always breaking something. If you leave ANY appliances then factor in their replacement periodically. painting touch ups between tenants etc.

also remember if things change and you want to sell it for whatever reason - CGT can bite you very hard if the exchange rate goes in the wrong direction. we got stung for over 60k, for a paper profit because of the exchange rate when we bought it (even though this was years before we moved to the us)
Excellent advice. We had all those things happen to us within the 6 years our house was rented out. We were fortunate with the exchange rate in that it was $1.65 when we bought and $1.49 when we sold. Over the last 10 years the exchange rate has varied from $1.716 to $1.204 so it is a big variation. XE.com has historical rate tables so one can look up the rate on the date the house was purchased.

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Old Jul 21st 2019, 12:45 pm
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Would to great for US CGT if you happened to buy in 2008, when it was almost 2:1, and to be selling now....if only
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Old Jul 21st 2019, 1:46 pm
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Would to great for US CGT if you happened to buy in 2008, when it was almost 2:1, and to be selling now....if only
Do you mean £1>$2 ? Yes, it would be great for US CGT

House purchase £200,000, sold today at £200,000 would be zero capital gain in the UK. For US purposes it would be purchased at $400,000 and sold at $250,000 so a loss of $150,000 which could be used to zero out other capital gains this year then carried forward future years to reduce more capital gains
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Originally Posted by durham_lad


Do you mean £1>$2 ? Yes, it would be great for US CGT

House purchase £200,000, sold today at £200,000 would be zero capital gain in the UK. For US purposes it would be purchased at $400,000 and sold at $250,000 so a loss of $150,000 which could be used to zero out other capital gains this year then carried forward future years to reduce more capital gains
Blimey, even better (or worse, depending on your perspective) than I thought! What a difference in real money this can make.
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