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chez33 Jul 12th 2011 11:17 am

Horsey people in the US?
 
Are there any horsey people on here living in the US? If so can you tell me the differences? e.g full livery, DIY how do the prices/services differ from here.
Also is it easy to Loan/share?
Basically how does it all differ from here? what do I need to be aware of.

Many Thanks

Ray Jul 12th 2011 1:55 pm

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the half horse option is cheapest

chez33 Jul 12th 2011 2:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 9490644)
the half horse option is cheapest


:rofl:

md95065 Jul 12th 2011 2:43 pm

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Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9490412)
Are there any horsey people on here living in the US?

Yes ...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf17xfzG0F1qavbv8.gif

If so can you tell me the differences?
Can you tell the difference?

dnolan1337 Jul 12th 2011 3:18 pm

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You can lease horses in the US for pretty much the boarding costs. For boarding, you can either get your own land, stall, and DIY it, or you can board a horse for anywhere from 300 to 1500 a month, depending on the boarding location.

The way our clients lease their horses is that the leaser covers some or all of the boarding and a % of the medical fees, and in return they get preferential use of the horse whenever they require it.

You would need to locate barns in the region you are moving in to, in order to get quotes and prices. Also, western and pleasure horses are far cheaper to purchase than racing and English saddle horses. You can pick up a decent pleasure ride horse for a couple thousand, if you are willing to train the horse yourself.


Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9490412)
Are there any horsey people on here living in the US? If so can you tell me the differences? e.g full livery, DIY how do the prices/services differ from here.
Also is it easy to Loan/share?
Basically how does it all differ from here? what do I need to be aware of.

Many Thanks


chez33 Jul 12th 2011 3:26 pm

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Originally Posted by dnolan1337 (Post 9490817)
You can lease horses in the US for pretty much the boarding costs. For boarding, you can either get your own land, stall, and DIY it, or you can board a horse for anywhere from 300 to 1500 a month, depending on the boarding location.

The way our clients lease their horses is that the leaser covers some or all of the boarding and a % of the medical fees, and in return they get preferential use of the horse whenever they require it.

You would need to locate barns in the region you are moving in to, in order to get quotes and prices. Also, western and pleasure horses are far cheaper to purchase than racing and English saddle horses. You can pick up a decent pleasure ride horse for a couple thousand, if you are willing to train the horse yourself.

Thank you!! think I might get bored doing western all the time, but it's been 20 yrs since I trained a horse so not so sure I'm up to it!!

ottotheboar Jul 12th 2011 5:12 pm

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Our local shelter has a few trail horses up for adoption around 10yrs old. The adoption fees range from $200 to $500 at present.

chez33 Jul 12th 2011 5:17 pm

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Originally Posted by ottotheboar (Post 9491087)
Our local shelter has a few trail horses up for adoption around 10yrs old. The adoption fees range from $200 to $500 at present.


Sounds great....I'm not there yet though! probably be 6mths to a year, can I ask you then?

I currently have a rescue that I would probably bring with me if only they'd let me as I adore her :cry_smile:

chez33 Jul 12th 2011 5:29 pm

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Here she is......it will break my heart leaving her.

Nutmegger Jul 12th 2011 6:06 pm

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One of the other things to put on your to-do list is to check into DEFRA requirements regarding pets being brought back to the UK, as you mentioned bringing other animals and said that if things didn't work out for you, you would just return. While it is pretty straightforward to bring dogs/cats into the US, as long as you ensure they are vaccinated for rabies, there are stringent requirements for taking them back to the UK.

chez33 Jul 12th 2011 6:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Nutmegger (Post 9491230)
One of the other things to put on your to-do list is to check into DEFRA requirements regarding pets being brought back to the UK, as you mentioned bringing other animals and said that if things didn't work out for you, you would just return. While it is pretty straightforward to bring dogs/cats into the US, as long as you ensure they are vaccinated for rabies, there are stringent requirements for taking them back to the UK.

I will, thanks. I'm trying to go with the attitude that it will work out though! at least until the animals have snuffed it :ohmy:

chez33 Jul 12th 2011 6:23 pm

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Just checked out the DEFRA website and don't think it would be any harder to bring them back than to take them, in fact from January 2012 it will be even easier :D

Nutmegger Jul 12th 2011 6:27 pm

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Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9491267)
Just checked out the DEFRA website and don't think it would be any harder to bring them back than to take them, in fact from January 2012 it will be even easier :D

Yes, it is indeed going to get easier and quicker! The blood test period will be very rapid now.

Bob Jul 12th 2011 9:41 pm

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Why did I think this was a thread about Maine? :lol:

Sue Jul 13th 2011 1:51 am

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Originally Posted by dnolan1337 (Post 9490817)
You can lease horses in the US for pretty much the boarding costs. For boarding, you can either get your own land, stall, and DIY it, or you can board a horse for anywhere from 300 to 1500 a month, depending on the boarding location.

The way our clients lease their horses is that the leaser covers some or all of the boarding and a % of the medical fees, and in return they get preferential use of the horse whenever they require it.

You would need to locate barns in the region you are moving in to, in order to get quotes and prices. Also, western and pleasure horses are far cheaper to purchase than racing and English saddle horses. You can pick up a decent pleasure ride horse for a couple thousand, if you are willing to train the horse yourself.

What he said. :D

Basically he's covered most of it.

There are small differences between barns, but overall its the same thing. You can own/lease/part-lease etc, etc, and boarding costs can differ depending on how much you want them to do.

I've very new to the horsey world, only been riding for 18 months, and never rode in the UK, so can't can't make any comparisons between the two. But it seems that the places I've ridden are pretty flexible and accommodating.

dnolan1337 Jul 13th 2011 3:26 am

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My company also does lease to own, but there's a big contract with conditions attached to that. You are likely better off finding a young horse that needs some training, and paying for that training instead. You can always buy a young'n and find a decent trainer to help get him ready.

Hell, you could buy a young'n, board it at a barn where riding lessons are given, and allow the barn to use your horse in their program. They would train it during use and it would cost you nothing extra.

Also, US barns make you sign an all inclusive "you cant sue us, ever" kind of legal agreement before they take your horse or let you ride on site. You can view ours here:

http://lebocagestables.com/pdf/rider_waiver_1page.pdf

Under most state laws, barns are covered against damages from injury while riding, but they all have the riding waivers like I linked you to make sure all rights are thoroughly screwed. Its something to consider before you ride, know your rights and be warned, if you fall or get hurt, you are very much on your own.

If you ride English, you will likely still be able to find a barn in your area that does that kind of training / lessons. You can even save money by getting a western horse and retraining it for English saddles/reigns.

Last thing, get to know the staff, be friendly, and help out at barn events, etc. After a while it will pay off and you will find yourself paying less than other customers or not having the price increases applied to your account every year.


Originally Posted by Sue (Post 9492135)
What he said. :D

Basically he's covered most of it.


candy wy. Jul 13th 2011 1:33 pm

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Originally Posted by dnolan1337 (Post 9490817)
You can lease horses in the US for pretty much the boarding costs. For boarding, you can either get your own land, stall, and DIY it, or you can board a horse for anywhere from 300 to 1500 a month, depending on the boarding location.

The way our clients lease their horses is that the leaser covers some or all of the boarding and a % of the medical fees, and in return they get preferential use of the horse whenever they require it.

You would need to locate barns in the region you are moving in to, in order to get quotes and prices. Also, western and pleasure horses are far cheaper to purchase than racing and English saddle horses. You can pick up a decent pleasure ride horse for a couple thousand, if you are willing to train the horse yourself.


Agree with all that is said except the last sentence..
you can pickup a good well trained pleasure horse for a lot less than a couple of thousand...

dnolan1337 Jul 13th 2011 5:51 pm

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Lol I said you can get western AND pleasure horses for cheaper than you can English saddle. Ie, you can get an English pleasure for cheap, but once you start looking for a specific type of English riding experience, ie hunter or dressage, the prices get recockulous.


Originally Posted by candy wy. (Post 9493047)
Agree with all that is said except the last sentence..
you can pickup a good well trained pleasure horse for a lot less than a couple of thousand...


candy wy. Jul 13th 2011 7:40 pm

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Originally Posted by dnolan1337 (Post 9493507)
Lol I said you can get western AND pleasure horses for cheaper than you can English saddle. Ie, you can get an English pleasure for cheap, but once you start looking for a specific type of English riding experience, ie hunter or dressage, the prices get recockulous.


yep the price dose get ridiculous......;) but hey when in America do as the Ameicans do:p

chez33 Jul 13th 2011 7:52 pm

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Originally Posted by candy wy. (Post 9493708)
yep the price dose get ridiculous......;) but hey when in America do as the Ameicans do:p


I'll certainly give it a try, but could definitely not give up English though....maybe I need 2 horses :thumbsup:

chez33 Jul 13th 2011 8:07 pm

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Originally Posted by dnolan1337 (Post 9492246)
My company also does lease to own, but there's a big contract with conditions attached to that. You are likely better off finding a young horse that needs some training, and paying for that training instead. You can always buy a young'n and find a decent trainer to help get him ready.

Hell, you could buy a young'n, board it at a barn where riding lessons are given, and allow the barn to use your horse in their program. They would train it during use and it would cost you nothing extra.

Also, US barns make you sign an all inclusive "you cant sue us, ever" kind of legal agreement before they take your horse or let you ride on site. You can view ours here:

http://lebocagestables.com/pdf/rider_waiver_1page.pdf

Under most state laws, barns are covered against damages from injury while riding, but they all have the riding waivers like I linked you to make sure all rights are thoroughly screwed. Its something to consider before you ride, know your rights and be warned, if you fall or get hurt, you are very much on your own.

If you ride English, you will likely still be able to find a barn in your area that does that kind of training / lessons. You can even save money by getting a western horse and retraining it for English saddles/reigns.

Last thing, get to know the staff, be friendly, and help out at barn events, etc. After a while it will pay off and you will find yourself paying less than other customers or not having the price increases applied to your account every year.

Just wanted to say thanks to all those who've replied, there's been some great advice, just what I needed.

candy wy. Jul 13th 2011 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9493724)
I'll certainly give it a try, but could definitely not give up English though....maybe I need 2 horses :thumbsup:

I have no idea were you are going to be living but maybe that is an option..:lol: My horses are used for pleasure riding mostly in the mountains. I must admit I have had no desire to ride English...;) maybe you could look at barrel racing or roping as a new interest..:rofl::rofl:

dnolan1337 Jul 13th 2011 8:29 pm

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Decided what state and county you are locating to? I may be able to locate an English barn or two in that area.

Also, English events in the US are governed by:

USHJA
USEF

Both are online if you are interested in viewing their content. You usually also get a state level governing body, and a regional one too. For example, my barn is subject to:

USHJA
USEF
ACHJA
THJA
LHJA

LOL theres a lot of horse associations here.

And dont get unexcited, theres plenty of English discipline in the US, especially in Kentucky, Washington State, Louisiana, and New York State.


Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9493752)
Just wanted to say thanks to all those who've replied, there's been some great advice, just what I needed.


Noorah101 Jul 13th 2011 8:38 pm

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Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9491141)
Here she is......it will break my heart leaving her.

Wow, those photos are gorgeous! I love the one in the snow. I just love horses, period. :D

Rene

chez33 Jul 13th 2011 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by dnolan1337 (Post 9493804)
Decided what state and county you are locating to? I may be able to locate an English barn or two in that area.

Also, English events in the US are governed by:

USHJA
USEF

Both are online if you are interested in viewing their content. You usually also get a state level governing body, and a regional one too. For example, my barn is subject to:

USHJA
USEF
ACHJA
THJA
LHJA

LOL theres a lot of horse associations here.

And dont get unexcited, theres plenty of English discipline in the US, especially in Kentucky, Washington State, Louisiana, and New York State.

Wow thanks that's great! we're more than likely going to Asheville in NC. Have had a look and there does appear to be a couple of good 'barns' around but if you can advise on good ones that's be great :thumbsup:

chez33 Jul 13th 2011 8:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 9493825)
Wow, those photos are gorgeous! I love the one in the snow. I just love horses, period. :D

Rene

She'd been stuck in her stable for 3 days due to the snow, she went NUTS when we turned her out and a friend of mine, who happens to be a professional photographer, got loads of fabulous photo's.
I'm gonna miss that horse so much, it actually hurts too bad to think about :-(

chez33 Jul 13th 2011 9:03 pm

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couple more of snow ones..

Noorah101 Jul 13th 2011 9:37 pm

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Originally Posted by chez33 (Post 9493872)
couple more of snow ones..

Absolutely lovely!! Thank you for sharing the pics. :)

Rene

Poppy girl Jul 13th 2011 10:18 pm

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Originally Posted by candy wy. (Post 9493708)
yep the price dose get ridiculous......;) but hey when in America do as the Ameicans do:p

How many did you have at the last count 54 was it :D...thats a full time job in its self looking after them.

candy wy. Jul 14th 2011 1:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Poppy girl (Post 9493996)
How many did you have at the last count 54 was it :D...thats a full time job in its self looking after them.


12 foals this year :eek::eek:

dnolan1337 Jul 14th 2011 3:51 pm

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...I hope you have staff to help there...haha.



Originally Posted by candy wy. (Post 9495061)
12 foals this year :eek::eek:



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