Homeschooling
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by izibear
I've been doing it successfully for 8 years, and am past the need to defend anything. The proof is in my kids and their level of maturity and education.
It is legal in every state, and for that matter, in nearly every country worldwide, excepting Germany (at the moment), that I can think of, from the top of my head. Strangely enough, its hugely popular in the U.K., something I found extremely surprising when I found out about it a few years ago.
Check out any John Taylor Gatto books in your local library, especially one titled 'The Underground of American Education'. He was both New York State Teacher of the Year, and thrice New York City's Teacher of the Year yet quit and is a leading advocate of homeschooling. His book is excellent.
It is legal in every state, and for that matter, in nearly every country worldwide, excepting Germany (at the moment), that I can think of, from the top of my head. Strangely enough, its hugely popular in the U.K., something I found extremely surprising when I found out about it a few years ago.
Check out any John Taylor Gatto books in your local library, especially one titled 'The Underground of American Education'. He was both New York State Teacher of the Year, and thrice New York City's Teacher of the Year yet quit and is a leading advocate of homeschooling. His book is excellent.
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Also, anything I said to Rincewind was in jest and not meant to offend....
If you are interested in private schooling with no religious tutoring, there is a school that provides that. My wife may remember the name of it and I think they have places all over the States.
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by rincewind
This is my issue with it. Too many people believe they can do a better job than teachers can when in truth they can't. They either don't have the patience or the skill to teach their own children.
Children need to be around other children to learn social skills and a school environment puts them into the learning mode to suck up knowledge.
Most decisions to home school are by those that hold paranoid anti-government views, deep rooted religious beliefs or are just too lazy to get them enrolled.
While some have home schooled successfully (and I applaud those that made the effort to make it work), I still believe children need to be in a school around others the same age. There are too many distractions at home.
Children need to be around other children to learn social skills and a school environment puts them into the learning mode to suck up knowledge.
Most decisions to home school are by those that hold paranoid anti-government views, deep rooted religious beliefs or are just too lazy to get them enrolled.
While some have home schooled successfully (and I applaud those that made the effort to make it work), I still believe children need to be in a school around others the same age. There are too many distractions at home.
I have a friend who was a teacher and now stays home to homeschool her two kids, she does a wonderful job with her kids but they're missing out on the whole wonderful experience of school, friends , it's an important part of growing up , warts an all
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by Celtic_Angel
... but they're missing out on the whole wonderful experience of school, friends , it's an important part of growing up , warts an all
#20
Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by Bob
that's true, you make some of your best mates from school...
"Alwight luv? Corrrrr. Can I smell your gym bag???"
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by rincewind
And you learn how to communicate with the opposite sex.
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Because nobody challenges you openly?
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Re: Homeschooling
Finally an intelligent comment from some who has knowledge and experience of the subject. I have so far found out how I stand legally in Texas, which was a pleasant surprise. Yes, I can take my kids out of school when I want and there is nothing the state can do about it. Secondly, I have starte to research the subject both on the internet and at the library.
The suggestion that this is the lazy option taken by some parents is to me "bizarre". It must be easier to send you kids to school. I want better, not easy. I have 5 large books to study over the next two weeks as the frirst step in preparing. One is "The well trained mind, a guide to a classical education at home" by Jessie and Susan Wise. The others are intro's to home schooling.
As my kids are English I want gear the curriculum to the English National Curriculum (we assume our assylum is a temporary one). I am amazed at how much stuff is out there and how many people are doing it. Even to the extent of classes offered in some schools for homeschooled kids.
Any other tips from you would be welcome.
The suggestion that this is the lazy option taken by some parents is to me "bizarre". It must be easier to send you kids to school. I want better, not easy. I have 5 large books to study over the next two weeks as the frirst step in preparing. One is "The well trained mind, a guide to a classical education at home" by Jessie and Susan Wise. The others are intro's to home schooling.
As my kids are English I want gear the curriculum to the English National Curriculum (we assume our assylum is a temporary one). I am amazed at how much stuff is out there and how many people are doing it. Even to the extent of classes offered in some schools for homeschooled kids.
Any other tips from you would be welcome.
Originally Posted by izibear
I've been doing it successfully for 8 years, and am past the need to defend anything. The proof is in my kids and their level of maturity and education.
It is legal in every state, and for that matter, in nearly every country worldwide, excepting Germany (at the moment), that I can think of, from the top of my head. Strangely enough, its hugely popular in the U.K., something I found extremely surprising when I found out about it a few years ago.
Check out any John Taylor Gatto books in your local library, especially one titled 'The Underground of American Education'. He was both New York State Teacher of the Year, and thrice New York City's Teacher of the Year yet quit and is a leading advocate of homeschooling. His book is excellent.
It is legal in every state, and for that matter, in nearly every country worldwide, excepting Germany (at the moment), that I can think of, from the top of my head. Strangely enough, its hugely popular in the U.K., something I found extremely surprising when I found out about it a few years ago.
Check out any John Taylor Gatto books in your local library, especially one titled 'The Underground of American Education'. He was both New York State Teacher of the Year, and thrice New York City's Teacher of the Year yet quit and is a leading advocate of homeschooling. His book is excellent.
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Re: Homeschooling
We have found that where we live in Katy, Texas. There is the british school but the first years fees for our two would be around 35,000 dollars and rising at about 8% a year. Since we have to pay that ourselves we are not keen.
QUOTE=AmerLisa]Interesting Izibear. I'm not sure that I'd have the patience for homeschooling and of course as CB pointed out...perhaps I need to learn grammar. Anyway, I do believe that public education has a lot of shortfalls. I will be looking at private education soon for my daughter. Although from what I can see its hard to find anything that isn't Christian based or Montessori.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=AmerLisa]Interesting Izibear. I'm not sure that I'd have the patience for homeschooling and of course as CB pointed out...perhaps I need to learn grammar. Anyway, I do believe that public education has a lot of shortfalls. I will be looking at private education soon for my daughter. Although from what I can see its hard to find anything that isn't Christian based or Montessori.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by pcave
I am thinking of taking my kids out of the american state school system and homeschooling them. I would like to get in contact with other British Parents who have done this in the USA.
I know someone who did this and it worked so well for them. She was really dedicated and the kids liked it. She also made sure they did things to mix with other kids, like dance classes, gymnastics, martial arts etc.
If you plan on going back to England when they are still at school/college age I think it's a great idea to teach them 'English stuff' aswell, so they don't feel so freaked out when you move!
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by pcave
Finally an intelligent comment from some who has knowledge and experience of the subject. I have so far found out how I stand legally in Texas, which was a pleasant surprise. Yes, I can take my kids out of school when I want and there is nothing the state can do about it. Secondly, I have starte to research the subject both on the internet and at the library.
The suggestion that this is the lazy option taken by some parents is to me "bizarre". It must be easier to send you kids to school. I want better, not easy. I have 5 large books to study over the next two weeks as the frirst step in preparing. One is "The well trained mind, a guide to a classical education at home" by Jessie and Susan Wise. The others are intro's to home schooling.
As my kids are English I want gear the curriculum to the English National Curriculum (we assume our assylum is a temporary one). I am amazed at how much stuff is out there and how many people are doing it. Even to the extent of classes offered in some schools for homeschooled kids.
Any other tips from you would be welcome.
The suggestion that this is the lazy option taken by some parents is to me "bizarre". It must be easier to send you kids to school. I want better, not easy. I have 5 large books to study over the next two weeks as the frirst step in preparing. One is "The well trained mind, a guide to a classical education at home" by Jessie and Susan Wise. The others are intro's to home schooling.
As my kids are English I want gear the curriculum to the English National Curriculum (we assume our assylum is a temporary one). I am amazed at how much stuff is out there and how many people are doing it. Even to the extent of classes offered in some schools for homeschooled kids.
Any other tips from you would be welcome.
To be honest I always moan about the schooling over here but then my kids were lucky to have been educated in the Perthshire. However, my sisters kids all attended the crap schools in Medway and you going have to walk down Chatham high street to see what education they received. I don't think I have seen so many young girls with babies in my life.
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by pcave
Finally an intelligent comment from some who has knowledge and experience of the subject. I have so far found out how I stand legally in Texas, which was a pleasant surprise. Yes, I can take my kids out of school when I want and there is nothing the state can do about it. Secondly, I have starte to research the subject both on the internet and at the library.
The suggestion that this is the lazy option taken by some parents is to me "bizarre". It must be easier to send you kids to school. I want better, not easy. I have 5 large books to study over the next two weeks as the frirst step in preparing. One is "The well trained mind, a guide to a classical education at home" by Jessie and Susan Wise. The others are intro's to home schooling.
As my kids are English I want gear the curriculum to the English National Curriculum (we assume our assylum is a temporary one). I am amazed at how much stuff is out there and how many people are doing it. Even to the extent of classes offered in some schools for homeschooled kids.
Any other tips from you would be welcome.
The suggestion that this is the lazy option taken by some parents is to me "bizarre". It must be easier to send you kids to school. I want better, not easy. I have 5 large books to study over the next two weeks as the frirst step in preparing. One is "The well trained mind, a guide to a classical education at home" by Jessie and Susan Wise. The others are intro's to home schooling.
As my kids are English I want gear the curriculum to the English National Curriculum (we assume our assylum is a temporary one). I am amazed at how much stuff is out there and how many people are doing it. Even to the extent of classes offered in some schools for homeschooled kids.
Any other tips from you would be welcome.
There is a Well-Trained-Mind forum:
http://www.welltrainedmind.com/
http://www.vegsource.com/homeschool/
is another great resource with boards for any method you might want to follow, including a secular board.
Bear in mind that many of the sites you find are religious, but there is always good information you can glean off them.
Another one that I am particularly fond of is : www.classical-homeschooling.org , since that seems to be the approach toward which you're heading
It is pretty thorough, along the lines of the Well Trained Mind, and has excellent resources, including a link with over 1000 books geared for every age/grade level. (Note that there is some religion, but you can spit out the 'bones', if you're not that way inclined).
http://www.geocities.com/sueincyprus/index.html is geared toward Brit homeschoolers, with some good information (don't know if they're religious or not)
Here you can find some more info, and support groups in your area maybe?
http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/...pportLists.htm
Your local library is often a great resource for support groups and activities. If you don't like the one group, move on till you find one that you do like.
There are classes available for any subject under the sun, basically found throughout the US. For example, two former high school teachers in my area, have 'labs' with 8th grades and above, twice a week. Your local Museum of Science probably has science classes once a week/month for homeschoolers (ours meets once a month and they do various activities geared to elementary age homeschoolers).
They have group music classes available, art classes, latin classes, drama clubs, the YMCA locally has a Tuesday morning gymnastics class for homeschoolers..etc..etc..
There are ice-skating social meetings for teens at the local rink once a month, bowling once a week etc..etc......many times you'll find that there is a mix of religious/non-religious kids meeting, with the intention of having fun!
There is literally so much available, that if we didn't severely restrict their activities, they'd never open a book.
Good luck
Forgot to add:
Your Brit exam board should have the syllabi for the coming years posted on its website, so that you can follow along (if they're anywhere near writing GCSE's when they return of course).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/ is a good site to peruse, and if you enter home education in their search engine, you'll find some articles on home education in Britain.
Last edited by izibear; Feb 11th 2005 at 10:02 pm.
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by izibear
No. Because the majority of people who are opposed to it, are ignorant when it comes to the subject.
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Re: Homeschooling
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Bit of a sweeping generalisation.
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Re: Homeschooling
You seem ignorant on the subject of homeschooling and well as rude.
QUOTE=CaliforniaBride]Bit of a sweeping generalisation.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=CaliforniaBride]Bit of a sweeping generalisation.[/QUOTE]