Bob

complex with pool? I wish *lol*...naaa...we looked at a few of those scary places, but went with something that wasn't a shoe box in size for the same money.

And the house, it's got two oil tanks, one for us and another for the folks below.

Bob

whatever, it's a flat

Anyway, we've got the huge space, the family below, well they've got the nice appointments...as the owners use to live there, till get had more kids and it was a tad small, but looks fab compared to our place, not that it's to shabby either *l*

Jerseygirl

Can't you persuade him to turn his heat up...that way it will warm your place up too.

krizzy

I'll dig out a bill and have a look...my bills were $125 a month without AC...now they are $80...the only thing thats changed is the carrier...

Bob

he has got it up....we just ain't getting much of it *lol*

Rete

Have to put a grate in the floor for the warm air to raise. My friend installed a pelt stove in MA three years ago and it does quite a good job in heating the basement live-in area and the first floor once they put in some ducts. As lowered her oil heating bill to 1-1/2 tanks per winter instead of the 3 tanks she use to use.

Rodney you plonker

How are the windows, are they the old wooden rickety type, you lose a lot of heat through them if they are.

You can buy cheap temporary plastic that seals old windows, I cant remember the name of it but it's like cling film but a lot stronger, it comes in a kit and you simply tape it around the frame, then you take a hair dryer to it and it shrinks. As it shrinks it stretches out to point you can hardly see it is there. After winter you just pull it off and bin it.

Call it a poor mans double glazing, I have used it and it was very effective.

It may not be the heater that's your problem, it might be the house itself.

EDIT:

Just found it on Amazon. $17 will do 5 windows.

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Company-214.../dp/B00002NCJI

Bob

would be nice, but I doubt that's a go-er with the landlord *l*

Bob

Aye, old sash windows, right shite they are, gone and taped them up with insulation, and have thickish curtains all over the place.

That shrink wrap stuff, I've seen it around, which works alright, but it's a mare to get off the windows, well around in maine it was, went crackly and you couldn't get it off the windows, so a bit reluctant to try it again around here, it not being our gaff *l*

krizzy

We use it to cover the hole in the wall we have between the living room and kitchen/dinning room...why they cut holes in walls over here I'll never know...I think its so you don't feel left out while you cook or something like that...

Dan725

I was going to say, I reckon he probably wouldn't be too impressed if you starting sawing holes in the floor!

Patrick Hasler

I know you rent so it's not your choice but we had new thermoglaze windows fitted all round last year and it cut our fuel bill by vazt amounts.

Bob

how much were those a window? I might try put it to the landlord, worth a try, he's got to come by anyway as the plumbing has decided to die in the kitchen...but our place has abour 20 windows *lol*

Pulaski

Electricity costs more than gas, so unless you are using a small heater for a (very) confimed space - just to keep, say, a small room cozy, you are just going to trade a high gas/ oil bill for a higher electricity bill.

Personally I'd recommend spending whatever you have to "invest" in buying a thicker duvet/ comforter, and wearing a woolly jumper and warm slippers in an evening.

Mrs P used to be skeptical, and when we first got married wanted the heating cranked up at night, but, after a little "discussion" she agreed to try letting the temperature fall overnight (currently to around 56ºF) and she has discovered that, just as I said, she sleeps a lot better in a cool room, under a thick duvet and blanket to keep warm, than she did in a warm one.

Bob

Aye, we've got the sheets going and all that, but the heat has to be on all the time or the pipes will go, though I'm thinking of keeping it pretty low all the same, and it's an oil furnace, so not cheap to run really...and yeah, I know the electric will go up, but I'm thinking it'll still be cheaper to have a small one heat the living room while we're in it up, and perhaps the bedroom for a couple hours than have to have the whole apartment heated up to a comfy temp, or at all for that matter.

I'm just wondering if anyone has used a nice small space heater, most of the fan jobbies, with either ceramic or quartz style elements are either really flimsy looking, loud, or take a lot of juice to run, so can't be cheap...this Eden Pure seems pretty good, the in-laws really like it as it doesn't dry the place out, and uses' the moisture in the air to heat the room up fully and quickly so they only run it for a little bit to warm the place up and seem to love it, but not got the electric bill yet so don't know how much it costs to run....but then they also have a wood stove which is always on, the joys of getting free wood...and then they have a propane tanked heater to heat a couple of the other rooms.