Health insurance -big problems!
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Health insurance -big problems!
Wife not working and I'm self employed in CA. I don't qualify for group insurance but this forum recommended a local chamber of commerce or something like the IGDA. So that's what I did - and we, the parents, been denied coverage! (We do have temporary, emergency cover)
Allegedly joining something like the IGDA would give group rates and cover pre-existing conditions (see http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=34 for example). I can't comment on the former but the latter is apparently NOT covered - yes it's group coverage, but not employer-based group coverage, and doesn't cover pre-existing. I'm not blaming the posters here: up until now Association Pros, who handle the IGDA insurance, never said there would be these problems.
Meanwhile the kids have been approved because legally they're not allowed to be denied coverage. But there is no limit on the rates, so DS (4-year old) is $460 per month and DD (baby) is $920 per month. However, these ought to be lowerable by going to have a physical exam ASAP - something we had planned to do in anticipation of Blue Shield's response, but couldn't arrange until we knew what Blue Shield wanted from the exam, as the exams here are like menus of tests and things you can optionally include or exclude depending on who wants the results of the exam.
Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
The final problem is my cataract surgery I had 9 months ago. They appear to be denying any coverage just on that one issue. I could manage with eyes being excluded but that doesn't appear to be an option. To be honest, it's all a bit confusing so that may not be the case after all.
Any ideas where we go from here appreciated!
Allegedly joining something like the IGDA would give group rates and cover pre-existing conditions (see http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=34 for example). I can't comment on the former but the latter is apparently NOT covered - yes it's group coverage, but not employer-based group coverage, and doesn't cover pre-existing. I'm not blaming the posters here: up until now Association Pros, who handle the IGDA insurance, never said there would be these problems.
Meanwhile the kids have been approved because legally they're not allowed to be denied coverage. But there is no limit on the rates, so DS (4-year old) is $460 per month and DD (baby) is $920 per month. However, these ought to be lowerable by going to have a physical exam ASAP - something we had planned to do in anticipation of Blue Shield's response, but couldn't arrange until we knew what Blue Shield wanted from the exam, as the exams here are like menus of tests and things you can optionally include or exclude depending on who wants the results of the exam.
Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
The final problem is my cataract surgery I had 9 months ago. They appear to be denying any coverage just on that one issue. I could manage with eyes being excluded but that doesn't appear to be an option. To be honest, it's all a bit confusing so that may not be the case after all.
Any ideas where we go from here appreciated!
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I'm not familiar with all the insurance types out there...are you saying you and your wife were denied individual insurance policies?
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Please check out this link for Healthy Families: http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/HFProgram/Join.aspx. I'm not familiar with the program as I don't have any children myself. However, I do understand that you can at least have coverage for your children at a reasonable cost.
Check out this link for costs in your own county: http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/Pl...ernardino.aspx
ETA: I don't remember your immigration situation, but if your children are U.S. citizens, then you can disregard the Immigration requirements.
Good luck, let us know how it works out.
Check out this link for costs in your own county: http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/Pl...ernardino.aspx
ETA: I don't remember your immigration situation, but if your children are U.S. citizens, then you can disregard the Immigration requirements.
Good luck, let us know how it works out.
Last edited by Moonshadow_Girl; May 29th 2012 at 10:42 pm. Reason: More info
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I would really recommend finding an insurance broker who specializes in health coverage. HI is such a minefield that you really need a professional to help, and it doesn't cost you anything.
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Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
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Re: Health insurance -big problems!
Wife not working and I'm self employed in CA. I don't qualify for group insurance but this forum recommended a local chamber of commerce or something like the IGDA. So that's what I did - and we, the parents, been denied coverage! (We do have temporary, emergency cover)
Allegedly joining something like the IGDA would give group rates and cover pre-existing conditions (see http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=34 for example). I can't comment on the former but the latter is apparently NOT covered - yes it's group coverage, but not employer-based group coverage, and doesn't cover pre-existing. I'm not blaming the posters here: up until now Association Pros, who handle the IGDA insurance, never said there would be these problems.
Meanwhile the kids have been approved because legally they're not allowed to be denied coverage. But there is no limit on the rates, so DS (4-year old) is $460 per month and DD (baby) is $920 per month. However, these ought to be lowerable by going to have a physical exam ASAP - something we had planned to do in anticipation of Blue Shield's response, but couldn't arrange until we knew what Blue Shield wanted from the exam, as the exams here are like menus of tests and things you can optionally include or exclude depending on who wants the results of the exam.
Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
The final problem is my cataract surgery I had 9 months ago. They appear to be denying any coverage just on that one issue. I could manage with eyes being excluded but that doesn't appear to be an option. To be honest, it's all a bit confusing so that may not be the case after all.
Any ideas where we go from here appreciated!
Allegedly joining something like the IGDA would give group rates and cover pre-existing conditions (see http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=34 for example). I can't comment on the former but the latter is apparently NOT covered - yes it's group coverage, but not employer-based group coverage, and doesn't cover pre-existing. I'm not blaming the posters here: up until now Association Pros, who handle the IGDA insurance, never said there would be these problems.
Meanwhile the kids have been approved because legally they're not allowed to be denied coverage. But there is no limit on the rates, so DS (4-year old) is $460 per month and DD (baby) is $920 per month. However, these ought to be lowerable by going to have a physical exam ASAP - something we had planned to do in anticipation of Blue Shield's response, but couldn't arrange until we knew what Blue Shield wanted from the exam, as the exams here are like menus of tests and things you can optionally include or exclude depending on who wants the results of the exam.
Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
The final problem is my cataract surgery I had 9 months ago. They appear to be denying any coverage just on that one issue. I could manage with eyes being excluded but that doesn't appear to be an option. To be honest, it's all a bit confusing so that may not be the case after all.
Any ideas where we go from here appreciated!
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Re: Health insurance -big problems!
Please check out this link for Healthy Families: http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/HFProgram/Join.aspx. I'm not familiar with the program as I don't have any children myself. However, I do understand that you can at least have coverage for your children at a reasonable cost.
Check out this link for costs in your own county: http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/Pl...ernardino.aspx
ETA: I don't remember your immigration situation, but if your children are U.S. citizens, then you can disregard the Immigration requirements.
Good luck, let us know how it works out.
Check out this link for costs in your own county: http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/Pl...ernardino.aspx
ETA: I don't remember your immigration situation, but if your children are U.S. citizens, then you can disregard the Immigration requirements.
Good luck, let us know how it works out.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Oregon covered me from day 1 from the minute I stepped of the aircraft. In fact it was all arranged from the UK before we left. Are you dealing direct with the company or through an insurance broker who sells health insurance. We used an agent local to where we were moving to.
You could try ex-pat health insurance to get you covered until you sort yourself out. http://www.staysure.co.uk/overseas/travel-insurance (says over 50s but I think they'll cover anyone for cash )
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Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Oregon covered me from day 1 from the minute I stepped of the aircraft. In fact it was all arranged from the UK before we left. Are you dealing direct with the company or through an insurance broker who sells health insurance. We used an agent local to where we were moving to.
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The IGDA application referred me to Association Pros.
What I'd hate to do now is to fill in yet another 15 page application form then wait 2 weeks for it to be summarily denied - again. Repeat ad nauseum.
What I'd hate to do now is to fill in yet another 15 page application form then wait 2 weeks for it to be summarily denied - again. Repeat ad nauseum.
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If I remember correctly you are a Software Consultant. Have you formed a company/partnership for your work?
The reason I ask is that if you have a company and there are 2 or more of you in the company (you and wife maybe?) you many be able to apply for Group health insurance for your company.
I was told this by a Health Insurance Agent when hubby and I were looking for individual policies. We considered setting up a Partnership just to be able to apply for Group coverage in case our individual application failed. Having a Group policy helps with pre-conditions.
You need to get a Health Insurance agent as soon as possible. Not surprised that the work based groups did not cover pre-conditions - so few policies, apart from employment based policies, do.
The reason I ask is that if you have a company and there are 2 or more of you in the company (you and wife maybe?) you many be able to apply for Group health insurance for your company.
I was told this by a Health Insurance Agent when hubby and I were looking for individual policies. We considered setting up a Partnership just to be able to apply for Group coverage in case our individual application failed. Having a Group policy helps with pre-conditions.
You need to get a Health Insurance agent as soon as possible. Not surprised that the work based groups did not cover pre-conditions - so few policies, apart from employment based policies, do.
Last edited by SanDiegogirl; May 29th 2012 at 11:33 pm. Reason: additional
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Please check the second link from my post, that's where you'll find the actual monthly costs, no more than $50 a month from the most expensive category, Category C.
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What if my child doesn't qualify for Healthy Families? Is there other health coverage I can get?
- If your income is below the limit for Healthy Families, you may qualify for no-cost Medi-Cal. You can let Healthy Families send your application to the county office near you to find out if you qualify for Medi-Cal.
- If your income is above the limit for Healthy Families, there may be other programs you can use. Call 1-800-880-5305 for more information. The call is free.
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Wife not working and I'm self employed in CA. I don't qualify for group insurance but this forum recommended a local chamber of commerce or something like the IGDA. So that's what I did - and we, the parents, been denied coverage! (We do have temporary, emergency cover)
Allegedly joining something like the IGDA would give group rates and cover pre-existing conditions (see http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=34 for example). I can't comment on the former but the latter is apparently NOT covered - yes it's group coverage, but not employer-based group coverage, and doesn't cover pre-existing. I'm not blaming the posters here: up until now Association Pros, who handle the IGDA insurance, never said there would be these problems.
Meanwhile the kids have been approved because legally they're not allowed to be denied coverage. But there is no limit on the rates, so DS (4-year old) is $460 per month and DD (baby) is $920 per month. However, these ought to be lowerable by going to have a physical exam ASAP - something we had planned to do in anticipation of Blue Shield's response, but couldn't arrange until we knew what Blue Shield wanted from the exam, as the exams here are like menus of tests and things you can optionally include or exclude depending on who wants the results of the exam.
Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
The final problem is my cataract surgery I had 9 months ago. They appear to be denying any coverage just on that one issue. I could manage with eyes being excluded but that doesn't appear to be an option. To be honest, it's all a bit confusing so that may not be the case after all.
Any ideas where we go from here appreciated!
Allegedly joining something like the IGDA would give group rates and cover pre-existing conditions (see http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=34 for example). I can't comment on the former but the latter is apparently NOT covered - yes it's group coverage, but not employer-based group coverage, and doesn't cover pre-existing. I'm not blaming the posters here: up until now Association Pros, who handle the IGDA insurance, never said there would be these problems.
Meanwhile the kids have been approved because legally they're not allowed to be denied coverage. But there is no limit on the rates, so DS (4-year old) is $460 per month and DD (baby) is $920 per month. However, these ought to be lowerable by going to have a physical exam ASAP - something we had planned to do in anticipation of Blue Shield's response, but couldn't arrange until we knew what Blue Shield wanted from the exam, as the exams here are like menus of tests and things you can optionally include or exclude depending on who wants the results of the exam.
Another problem is we've not been resident for 6 months. So how are we supposed to get health insurance for the first 6 months, I asked. I don't know, was the answer. But she's going to look into it and get some inbound immigrant insurance better than what we've got already.
The final problem is my cataract surgery I had 9 months ago. They appear to be denying any coverage just on that one issue. I could manage with eyes being excluded but that doesn't appear to be an option. To be honest, it's all a bit confusing so that may not be the case after all.
Any ideas where we go from here appreciated!