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Old Mar 24th 2010, 12:39 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
McCain is a very sore loser with a nasty temper. I am very happy he isn't President.
Remember the movie "Weekend at Bernie's"? That's like John McCain.
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Old Mar 24th 2010, 12:41 am
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It's not rocket surgery, Kim. If you give people ostensibly "free" stuff, of course they'll bitch and cream when you try and take it away.

I wish my hands of this whole affair. Enjoy yourselves while it lasts.
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Old Mar 24th 2010, 12:44 am
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It makes me laugh when Americans (Fox News) use terms like 'socialism' because they have no idea what they're talking about. What also makes me laugh is when the very people who would be helped by healthcare reform are on the news jabbing their fists in the air in anger because they don't want health care reform. "Don't you dare help me improve my situation in life. I'd rather be homeless because of my medial bills!" Oh, the ignorance....
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Old Mar 24th 2010, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by simongb
Remember the movie "Weekend at Bernie's"? That's like John McCain.
McCain's seat is up this year and he has a challenger in the primary who makes Hannity & Limbagh look like moderates. Expect him to be uber neocon until after the primary, then to swing back to the middle after he wins it.
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Originally Posted by simongb
It makes me laugh when Americans (Fox News) use terms like 'socialism' because they have no idea what they're talking about. What also makes me laugh is when the very people who would be helped by healthcare reform are on the news jabbing their fists in the air in anger because they don't want health care reform. "Don't you dare help me improve my situation in life. I'd rather be homeless because of my medial bills!" Oh, the ignorance....
What's the Matter With Kansas? explains this quite nicely...
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Old Mar 24th 2010, 2:32 am
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OK can anyone awnser these questions for me?

a) Will it mean us Brits on a permanent Resident card will be covered by this Health Care Bill?

b) When do you think it is likely to actually be full in place?
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I understand it covers Citizens and Perm Residents. I'm pretty sure Green Card holders will be fined if they don't have insurance like any US Citizen will so expect it to work the other way too.
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Originally Posted by WARPed
I understand it covers Citizens and Perm Residents. I'm pretty sure Green Card holders will be fined if they don't have insurance like any US Citizen will so expect it to work the other way too.
I've thought about that - but what about those green card holders whose sponsors are still liable under the affidavit of support?
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Hmm good point. WHat about those who are still under the affidavit of support? Are they still covered by the new health care bill?

Also what do you mean fined if you dont have insurance? WHy do you need insurance if you are automatically covered by the universal health care bill?
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
French doctors killed my parents before I was born.
So you were an immaculate conception then?
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So you were an immaculate conception then?
Not necessarily: the killings could have taken place after conception, and he might - like MacDuff - have been from his "mother's womb untimely ripped."
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Originally Posted by Brit3964
So you were an immaculate conception then?
I'm a bloody miracle.
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Originally Posted by nettlebed
What's the Matter With Kansas? explains this quite nicely...
You only had to look at the "news" with republicans decrying the bill as "clearly liberal" and similar bullshit from the other side, to see that standards of education have plumbed such depths that words no longer have sense or reference, but merely totemic value. It's fscking depressing, is what it is.

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I've thought about that - but what about those green card holders whose sponsors are still liable under the affidavit of support?
Yes, I raised this point some months ago, but nobody gave a toss. The worst case scenario is that we end up getting fined for not claiming benefits that we're ineligible for.
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The worst case scenario is that we end up getting fined for not claiming benefits that we're ineligible for.
No taxation without representation, eh?
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Originally Posted by chartreuse
Yes, I raised this point some months ago, but nobody gave a toss. The worst case scenario is that we end up getting fined for not claiming benefits that we're ineligible for.
I give a toss - and as the USC sponsor, not the immigrant, my concerns are different. Actually, the wording is:

"Can the applicant use government assistance or public benefits?

If the sponsored immigrant uses federal means tested public benefits, the sponsor is responsible for repaying the cost of the benefits."

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra..._Tested_Public

Medicaid is considered an MTPB.
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