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Absolutely. If all gun owners shot themselves, we'd have the problem cleared up in a flash.

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Personally Id like all the pointless SUV - especially the BMW X5 and Porche Cayenne - owners to drive off a cliff then that problem would be solved too. Infact, if every single person simultaneously commited suicide then the worlds problems would all be solved.

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Woosers.

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Mayor of a different caliber--A story about my town's mayor and his in-home shooting range.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...nbragsZ12.html

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Nice.

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Yeah... nice guy...

:rolleyes:

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Ain't it sweet. Like a living, breathing Norman Rockwell painting.

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Guns don't kill people, wappers do.

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I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the different types of guns. Is that anything like an Uzi, or a Bazooka?

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Shit!! and I really liked the Burger King ones ...

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You eat the wappers? :rolleyes: :eek:



NC Penguin

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We have lived in the US for 8 years, and have never got used to the gun culture here

We, as parents always check with new kids parents, if they have firearms, and how are they stored, before our kids go to someone new house.

We owned shot guns in the UK, and were checked by the local bobbies, once a year I think, as to how we stored the gun and how far away the ammo was kept from the gun itself.

We just used these for clay shooting, and nothing else, even though we lived in the country.

We also used to live in Louisianna, and it used to freak me out when I saw some guy driving a truck infront on me, with his shotgun hanging from the back window.

Still freaks me out, just a few weeks ago, a kid was shot in the head, not too far from where I live, because it was a inneation (sp?) test for 4 black boys, and yes, they were black boys, for their gang, they had to break into 3 houses and kill a white rich boy, all in the same night, which they did. The boy they shot, and killed, was 19, and his girlfriend was with him in the car at the time, and they just happened to be stopping at a 4 way stop, when this happened.

They caught the "shooter" who was 17, I think.

So, yes, I still worry every day about guns, especially when my eldest is nearly able to drive on his own in the evenings, and this could have happened to him, just because he was there..

I just makes me sick to the stomach, that these things happen, just for fun, or for a dare

As far as I am concerned, the USA is the sesspit of gun crime, and it will only get worse, and Britian is sure to follow suit

So, there is no way, you can get used to your neighbours gun habits, and if you have kids, check check and check again, or you may live to regret it

But that is just my humble opinion and experience, and I am sure many of you disagree..

PD1

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Although that's more of a gang problem than a gun problem. They would kill with a knife for 'initiation'.

What's more worrying is that some kids feel it's necessary to join a gang in the first place.

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some places they have to, be in one for safety or be killed...speaking of, BIL, when he was out looking for colleges, one college offered to pay his expenses and fee's if he went, just don't wear red or green, don't leave campus after certain hours and use the campus bus to get around campus at night....supposed to be a really good uni as well, but that somewhat put him off *l*

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The difference, though slight, being that a gun allows you to distance yourself from the violence. A knife requires physical effort, one-on-one contact and blood. A gun allows you to cowardly pull the trigger from a distance and walk away. The guns that gang members use are, of course, stolen from the idiots who legally own them but keep them in the nightstand.

Whether you are in Los Angeles, Belfast, Paris or Rio, whereever you find poverty and a general lack of hope amongst the young male population, you will always have gangs.

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Yes, take away the gangs and a large portion of gun related homicides would disappear, and probably so would most of the anti-gun lobby.

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My husband never goes anywhere without his gun ... sleeps with it under his pillow, drives with it under his leg, and wears a bum bag so that he can carry it everywhere he goes! To be honest, I've never taken much notice of it, I think I just took it as the done thing here (that is, if you're allowed to carry a gun in public, which my husband is) ... even though I'm from the UK and hadn't even been in the same room as a gun before coming here.

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Seen it before ... doesn't make you feel safer, but it is bloody hilarious! :D

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Thats very true.

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Been in a lot of gun and knife fights have you?

Wherever you find humans to you will find gangs. A gang doesnt have to be crime related. Gangs - or Tribes - are a natural state for humans and the natural tendency is if you arent in the gang then you are against it. Whether its racial, national, favourite team, pub, village, street, family, politcal party or organisation we are all in gangs and have the gang mentality.

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I especially liked the way he tried to continue on even though it looked like he had just shot his toes off!

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hehe, professionalism at its best.

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You forgot to mention 'forum gangs'! ;) ;)

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Oh yes, best not forget those.

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:D

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I don't have a gang problem in the 'burbs!

I think what you're referring to is tribal mentality - everyone with their own 'type'.

A 'gang' in the US sense is something different.

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The only gangs I see where I am all seem to use clothing (style, but especially color to separate one gang from another) as the way of telling the other gangs which gang they belong to. Most of them wear what looks like some kind of hosiery stuck to their heads, with a t-shirt that is 10 sizes too big and jeans that have to be constantly hoisted up to stop them from falling down. They gather in groups and generally look a bit menacing. Is this what is different about the US gang culture, or am I just barking up the wrong tree completely? :confused:

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The US gang culture is about "honour" and watching each other's back, it's not necessarily about the clothes you wear but most gangs wear particular colours.

It's prevalant in poorer neighbourhoods where residents perceive themselves as having little hope for the future.

A friend of mine who I play poker with was shot at while in his car, his best friend was shot in the head and died when he exited the vehicle to run away. All because my friend had broken the leg of a 'Latin King' who tried to assault him in a parking lot a few weeks earlier.

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I prefer the Latino gang look: Knee length Khaki Dickies, long white socks, white trainers, white vest, checked shirt, elaborate tattoos and their mother's fishnets on their heads. You score extra points when you see more than 3 of them bouncing along in a lowrider or lifted truck. There's a great organization here called Homeboy Industries, whose motto is, "Nothing Stops a Bullet Like a Job". When you go in their store to look at their T-shirts it's like stepping into your local correctional facility. Brilliant. How can anyone not love east LA?

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Thanks for the explanation. :)

Must say that the above is really sad! I remember when I was in New York, someone was shot right outside a barber shop ... the locals just carried on with their business like it was an every day occurrence! :eek:

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Have yet to see the fishnets ... and though I'm getting used to the black, red or white stockings which are worn as headgear around here, I still think it looks ridiculous. In fact the whole get up makes me chuckle ... I often wish I could see one of them being chased, just to see their oversized jeans fall down and make them fall flat on their faces! ;)

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When I lived in NY briefly last year I was listening to the radio one morning and on the news they proudly announced that no one had been shot in 9 days... then 3 people were shot outside a KFC in Brooklyn.

There was a temp working for us a few years ago here in Chicago, he was only 18, everyone spoke very highly of him and they wanted to hire him permanently. He was shot and killed in a drive by. It was very sad for everyone, even more so when we learned the family couldn't afford to pay for the funeral, but the company president stepped in and paid for it out of his own pocket.

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The jeans thing is hilarious. Where I live, you don't see real gang members, just asian teenagers wishing they were. Every day I see some 16 year old kid getting out of his tricked out purple and yellow Honda Civic with the 12 inch spoiler, jeans midway round the thigh, checked boxers for all to see. It looks so ****** ridiculous! What's going through their minds when they get dressed on a morn.

(I've just realised I sound like I'm 50! :scared: )

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The only safe gun is a gun that is unloaded and locked away in a secure cabinet, with the ammunition locked away in a separate cabinet.

If you keep a loaded gun in your house, then you are at high risk of either your kids, or your kids friends shooting themselves by accident, of having it used on you.

Saying to a burglar "Could you please excuse me for a moment, while I go and get my gun and load it" is generally a pretty useless tactic.

I prefer the company of two huge dogs, who are ready and able to protect my family with their lives if necessary, keep me fit walking them, and offer me unconditional love and bountiful furry cuddle opportunities. Great idea - but even some people get this idea wrong, and keep their own doggy protection chained up in the back yard, where they are completely unable to do anything but bark a lot (their neighbours being so used to the constant barking of a neglected dog that they would ignore it anyway) :rolleyes:

No guns for me. Not ever.

Paint.

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But New York has extremely tough gun control laws...how can all these shootings be happening?

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Probably because criminals will always get guns anyway.

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Cannot believe what I am reading. Sorry to come in on this thread but it appears that gun crime ie the killing of fellow human beings has now become acceptable. It should never be acceptable and if you start to take it all for granted where will it end?

(Having read quite a number of novels, based in the future in the US where marauding gangs roam it would appear it is not such fictional idea)

Heaven help our great grandchildren)

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I think you're not far from the truth. Running Man isn't too far off.

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Hold on a mo there, missus, who's saying it's okay to kill people (other than Il Presidente of course, but he doesn't count). The media sensationalise it and the public is horrified by it, but nobody's 'accepting' it. What would you have people do? Grab their kids out of school and lock themselves in the basement just because a drug dealer across town got shot.

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And they just love anti-gun laws. When will people get it that criminals are not law abiding folks? All the anti-this and anti that laws in the world will not prevent criminals from doing what they do. They just make it easier for them.