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sid50 Feb 16th 2012 1:42 pm

Be grateful for the NHS!
 
As someone who worked in healthcare in the UK I was sick to the back teeth regarding the general abuse and ungratefulness the British people had towards healthcare workers there.

Because they didnt pay anything directly for the service they had no value for it. Trying to self manage a cold was too much for them there. They would run to a GP with 5 mins of sore throat.

The US should be a wake up call for Brits. no abuse of the system there, you can ask for whatever you want just get your AMEX out beforehand.

the NHS will go eventually and it will disappear due to the abuse and demands of the consumers using it and no other reason than that!

MarylandNed Feb 16th 2012 2:13 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 
It depends on your situation. The US health care system is great if you have access to it i.e. the right health insurance. It's the health insurance system that is the real problem.

Here in the US, I have access to doctors and other medical services at really short notice simply because I have a decent health insurance plan (which also adds dental, vision and prescription coverage). In the UK, I would likely have much less access to (and longer waits for) medical services.

However, if you don't have health insurance in the US, then you're in trouble if you get sick. People in this situation would be better off with the UK system.

Jerseygirl Feb 16th 2012 2:26 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by sid50 (Post 9905212)
As someone who worked in healthcare in the UK I was sick to the back teeth regarding the general abuse and ungratefulness the British people had towards healthcare workers there.

Because they didnt pay anything directly for the service they had no value for it. Trying to self manage a cold was too much for them there. They would run to a GP with 5 mins of sore throat.

The US should be a wake up call for Brits. no abuse of the system there, you can ask for whatever you want just get your AMEX out beforehand.

the NHS will go eventually and it will disappear due to the abuse and demands of the consumers using it and no other reason than that!


I think you're preaching to the converted. :lol:

Egon Feb 16th 2012 2:28 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9905279)
It depends on your situation. The US health care system is great if you have access to it i.e. the right health insurance. It's the health insurance system that is the real problem.

Here in the US, I have access to doctors and other medical services at really short notice simply because I have a decent health insurance plan (which also adds dental, vision and prescription coverage). In the UK, I would likely have much less access to (and longer waits for) medical services.

However, if you don't have health insurance in the US, then you're in trouble if you get sick. People in this situation would be better off with the UK system.

You can get the same stuff at short notice in the UK if you opt for private healthcare too.

Wibblypig Feb 16th 2012 2:33 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9905302)
I think you're preaching to the converted. :lol:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Although it was nice to ring the orthodontist for one of my daughters and get an appointment for next week (called on Tuesday)....although slightly worried about the cost as we are only 50% covered for orthodontic care (up to a max of $5K then it's no cover :unsure:)....yikes!

In the UK my other daughter was put on the waiting list just before we came over here and we got a letter saying there was an 18mth waiting list for the initial appt and then another 18mth waiting list for treatment!!! I think if it was 'urgent' we would have paid to go privately but thankfully our dentist took the waiting list's into account and referred her early!! Anyone know how much braces cost here?!? :confused:

Jerseygirl Feb 16th 2012 2:40 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by Wibblypig (Post 9905316)
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Although it was nice to ring the orthodontist for one of my daughters and get an appointment for next week (called on Tuesday)....although slightly worried about the cost as we are only 50% covered for orthodontic care (up to a max of $5K then it's no cover :unsure:)....yikes!

In the UK my other daughter was put on the waiting list just before we came over here and we got a letter saying there was an 18mth waiting list for the initial appt and then another 18mth waiting list for treatment!!! I think if it was 'urgent' we would have paid to go privately but thankfully our dentist took the waiting list's into account and referred her early!! Anyone know how much braces cost here?!? :confused:

I think around $5/6K.

Wibblypig Feb 16th 2012 2:46 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9905327)
I think around $5/6K.

Thanks, that's probably why the max is $5K...will start saving as my middle one has been referred for over crowding...she has a small mouth apparently....just a lot comes out of it! :blink:

sid50 Feb 16th 2012 3:09 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 
why do you think the NHS is full of whining malingering hyperchondriacs? Its because its free. You think if they had to pay to get all that stuff done they would?

Hell no!!

Sally Redux Feb 16th 2012 3:11 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by sid50 (Post 9905212)
The US should be a wake up call for Brits. no abuse of the system there, you can ask for whatever you want just get your AMEX out beforehand.

Just look at Whitney.

ChocolateBabz Feb 16th 2012 3:22 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 
And 'free' prescriptions in Scotland, I just paid $102 for a nasal spray for the dude which will last 30 days as we haven't met our $3000 prescription deductible (that's a whole lots of drugs!!!) and it has no generic alternative.

MarylandNed Feb 16th 2012 3:24 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by sid50 (Post 9905212)
The US should be a wake up call for Brits. no abuse of the system there, you can ask for whatever you want just get your AMEX out beforehand.

By the way, there is still abuse of the system in the US. People who have no deductible (or who have already reached their deductible limit for the year) can go to town on medical services at no or reduced cost.

There are 6 people in my family and our annual deductible is reached every year. So we have absolutely no incentive not to go seek medical services because we know that our deductible will be reached at some point anyway - usually before June. So we essentially have access to free medical care during the 2nd half of the year.

Jerseygirl Feb 16th 2012 3:24 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by ChocolateBabz (Post 9905419)
And 'free' prescriptions in Scotland, I just paid $102 for a nasal spray for the dude which will last 30 days as we haven't met our $3000 prescription deductible (that's a whole lots of drugs!!!) and it has no generic alternative.

I have to laugh when my rellies complain about the cost of prescriptions in the UK.

ottotheboar Feb 16th 2012 3:27 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by Wibblypig (Post 9905316)
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Although it was nice to ring the orthodontist for one of my daughters and get an appointment for next week (called on Tuesday)....although slightly worried about the cost as we are only 50% covered for orthodontic care (up to a max of $5K then it's no cover :unsure:)....yikes!

In the UK my other daughter was put on the waiting list just before we came over here and we got a letter saying there was an 18mth waiting list for the initial appt and then another 18mth waiting list for treatment!!! I think if it was 'urgent' we would have paid to go privately but thankfully our dentist took the waiting list's into account and referred her early!! Anyone know how much braces cost here?!? :confused:

Ask for several opinions and prices. Two of our four needed braces and the difference in the treatment options and cost was huge.

ian-mstm Feb 16th 2012 3:43 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by sid50 (Post 9905391)
why do you think the NHS is full of whining malingering hyperchondriacs?

Respectfully, I think this is the exact opposite of what you intended to write.

Ian

sid50 Feb 16th 2012 3:52 pm

Re: Be grateful for the NHS!
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9905421)
By the way, there is still abuse of the system in the US. People who have no deductible (or who have already reached their deductible limit for the year) can go to town on medical services at no or reduced cost.

There are 6 people in my family and our annual deductible is reached every year. So we have absolutely no incentive not to go seek medical services because we know that our deductible will be reached at some point anyway - usually before June. So we essentially have access to free medical care during the 2nd half of the year.


yeah but u still got to shell out yr co pay a co pay in england would make most NHS patients not bother going to the ED or even their own GP


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