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Old Oct 14th 2013, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad
Your school had heat?
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yes, we used to roast first years.
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Old Oct 14th 2013, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Rete
It is a building system; no individual heating. It is New York City area and the norm.
Yup, if your apartment is near the boiler you are roasting but if you're right at the end of the line you are complaining to the management.
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Old Oct 14th 2013, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Bob
http://www.masssave.com/residential/...gy-assessments

Do you have anything like that up your way?

It's paid for in one of the taxes down our way, the one that's something like 25c a month. You get a free thermostat, energy efficient shower heads, light bulbs and a massive discount on insulating your home walls/roof. Friend got his whole house re-insulated for a couple hundred.
Pretty sure we don't, that's a great idea though...
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Originally Posted by Bob
It's about $300-400 for seasoned, hard wood. Unseasoned stuff is pretty cheap but that's kind of rubbish for heat out put.

The folks get the stump off cuts from the woods, as FIL trims and loads the trucks up, so gets some massive stumps of hard wood. Those things way a ton though
Makes you wonder how many people have a moisture meter?

That is very expensive, I burn wood, a lot of wood but at that price I would seriously reconsider.

Propane is about $1 for 50,000btus and a bit, averaging out that works out at 70,000btus for wood but my LPG Boiler is 98% efficient. My stoves are not vented with plastic.
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We moved into a house with baseboard heating last year and were worried it would be expensive. We found we didn't even turn it on upstairs in the bedrooms and only in the bathrooms when someone was taking a shower. Don't have a fireplace here but wood is about $175 a cord. When we did have a fireplace we would just pick up wood here and there people where giving away when they had a tree taken down, having our own log splitter helped. Still haven't used the heat yet this year.
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Old Oct 15th 2013, 3:21 pm
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Every year I have a battle with the missus, come December/January (Florida native) she's wanting to put the heating on during the day. It's rarely below 55° out and I don't think I've ever seen it below 60° on the thermostat.

At night sure, stick the heating on, we get a fair few frosty nights where we are, but I wont have it during the day. Stick a jumper on and get active.

However, I always find it amusing to see Floridians wearing ear-muffs with temperatures in the 50's. The Canadians who come down in the winter are still on the beaches.
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Originally Posted by Lord PercyPercy
..... I always find it amusing to see Floridians wearing ear-muffs with temperatures in the 50's. The Canadians who come down in the winter are still on the beaches.
I work with a Florida transplant who starts wearing a wool overcoat around this time of year, and he will keep wearing until late April. Meanwhile I am still wearing a short sleeved shirt. .... When it gets colder I will eventually switch to a long sleeved shirt, and a fleece jacket liner. On the coldest days (maybe 10-20 days over the winter) I wear a quilted jacket liner, and gloves. I have not worn a "coat" to go to work in at least three or four years!
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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad
Your school had heat?

Didn't know you were posh.
My parents moved the family down south. They're soft as shïte down there!
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Old Oct 15th 2013, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Makes you wonder how many people have a moisture meter?

That is very expensive, I burn wood, a lot of wood but at that price I would seriously reconsider.

Propane is about $1 for 50,000btus and a bit, averaging out that works out at 70,000btus for wood but my LPG Boiler is 98% efficient. My stoves are not vented with plastic.
Well you can get rubbish wood, or stuff only seasoned a year or less for peanuts, but that stuff is crap and doesn't put out any real heat and burns quickly.

The decent hard wood stuff that has been seasoned for 3 or so years is what costs the premium.
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Originally Posted by Bob
Well you can get rubbish wood, or stuff only seasoned a year or less for peanuts, ..... The decent hard wood stuff that has been seasoned for 3 or so years is what costs the premium.
If someone is being charged a premium for firewood seasoned for more than one year (summer), they're being ripped off. One summer and wood will be about as dry as it is going to get. Second paragraph on seasoned firewood
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
If someone is being charged a premium for firewood seasoned for more than one year (summer), they're being ripped off. One summer and wood will be about as dry as it is going to get. Second paragraph on seasoned firewood
For cut and split wood.

Most of it isn't split though, it's stump off cuts which do take longer to dry and most let it season naturally, uncovered, or minimally covered under a tarp.

Getting it split, delivered and stacked is a big part of the premium cost around here, where I am, as most people don't have the room to do it themselves. Less of a issue for folks up in Maine though, generally.
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Another one smiling at the notion of heating here. The aircon is set to 80, and runs a little in the late afternoon/ early evening, as it gets a little muggy. Still sleeping under an empty duvet cover, although there've been a couple nights when I've added a second empty duvet cover at the foot of the bed, ready to pull up at 4am. I'll probably put the duvets back in by the end of Oct.

I find October to be the 'cognitive dissonance' month here - on the one hand, I spent today cleaning the patio furniture and outdoor kitchen, ready for the outdoor living season. On the other, I ordered all the dried fruits I need for the Christmas cake and mincemeat... so it should be cold *confused*

We never run any heating or cooling at night, just adjust sleeping covers from none (here in summer when it's 90+ degrees at night) to 13 tog duvet and blanket (winter in Switzerland at well below freezing). Although my ideal bedroom is cooler, at the 9 tog duvet 'turn the light off and briskly jump back under the covers' range, I can sleep in anything in a 40 degree range, if needed. Keeps the costs down, and stops the machinery booming away all night.
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I have a question. We've been told that household pipes will freeze over the winter if we don't keep the house thermostats set to around 55F .... or some say 50F is the absolute lowest we can risk. Is this true? (We have a wood stove and hot-water baseboards, if that makes any difference.)
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I have a question. We've been told that household pipes will freeze over the winter if we don't keep the house thermostats set to around 55F .... or some say 50F is the absolute lowest we can risk. Is this true? (We have a wood stove and hot-water baseboards, if that makes any difference.)
If we are away in winter I usually set the thermostat to 55f and have never had a problem...we have forced air heating.
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
I have a question. We've been told that household pipes will freeze over the winter if we don't keep the house thermostats set to around 55F .... or some say 50F is the absolute lowest we can risk. Is this true? (We have a wood stove and hot-water baseboards, if that makes any difference.)
That sounds unduly conservative, though it depends on whether the pipes are insulated, how much water you use, and where the pipes are located. Certainly in Canada, pipes should not be located embedded in exterior walls, but down here it is common. For water to actually freeze the temperature inside the house where the pipes are located actually has to get down to freezing, but if the pipes are in an exterior wall, and not well insulated maybe you really do need to keep the temperatures at 50°F or more, though even in my opinion, that is pretty dämned cold for indoors! If you have pipes in a crawl space or unheated basement you could hang a 100w (or 2x60w) light bulb in the area as it will generate enough heat to make a difference without spending a fortune on extra heating for the whole house, especially if you're going away for a while and want to turn the heat down.

A neighboring house to me has had occasional problems with water freezing in the well head, in the middle of the front yard, so sometimes it is just a bad installation situation, and that house now has the well cover filled with attic insulation wrapped in plastic! In seriously cold weather they run a power cord out to feed an incandescent light which generates enough heat to keep the pipe from freezing, as I described above.

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