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lansbury Jul 2nd 2013 1:53 am
Gay couple application accepted
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23140288

Report badly worded but it would seem something has been accepted for processing.

md95065 Jul 2nd 2013 2:13 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 10780739)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23140288

Report badly worded but it would seem something has been accepted for processing.
The New York Times has a more complete article which indicates that same sex couples have been filing petitions for several years now.

Immigration officials said the visa agency, United States Immigration and Citizenship Services, would announce new procedures early this week for same-sex binational couples seeking green cards. The first approval was also supposed to be issued this week, officials acknowledged, but eager officers at the agency pressed the button on the notice on Friday.

For the last two years, the agency has kept a list of same-sex couples whose green card petitions were denied, the officials said, anticipating that the Supreme Court would eventually weigh in on DOMA. Those denials will now be reversed without couples having to present new applications, if no other issues have arisen. Gay couples with no denials, like Mr. Marsh and Mr. Popov, will move through the system at the same pace as traditional spouses, officials said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/us...reen-card.html

Ray Jul 2nd 2013 2:51 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
the Bulgarian has spent 15 years as a student ...

lansbury Jul 2nd 2013 4:30 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by Ray (Post 10780766)
the Bulgarian has spent 15 years as a student ...
slow learner :)

Scouse Express Jul 2nd 2013 11:15 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by Ray (Post 10780766)
the Bulgarian has spent 15 years as a student ...
That's because once he graduates.........Offski Popski.



Jim

civilservant Jul 2nd 2013 12:42 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
He has 3 Masters - clearly not an idiot.

sir_eccles Jul 2nd 2013 2:57 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
The other interesting take away is that their marriage is a NY one while they reside in FL (a constitutional ban state).

SultanOfSwing Jul 2nd 2013 9:14 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 10781302)
He has 3 Masters - clearly not an idiot.
They might be in sociology, business studies and home economics, though :D

lansbury Jul 2nd 2013 9:57 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10781928)
They might be in sociology, business studies and home economics, though :D
must be saving media studies in case his application is refused. :unsure:

Michael Jul 2nd 2013 10:04 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 10781302)
He has 3 Masters - clearly not an idiot.
At least we know who is the provider in the family and it is probably not the guy that you think is not an idiot.:sneaky:

md95065 Jul 3rd 2013 12:41 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 10781504)
The other interesting take away is that their marriage is a NY one while they reside in FL (a constitutional ban state).
The problem that Florida and other similarly situated states now have is that if they do not recognize same sex marriages that took place in states where it is legal they leave themselves open to to law suits claiming that they are violating the equal protection clause of the US constitution ...

... and, of course, if they do recognize same sex marriages which took place elsewhere while continuing to forbid them in their own state they get themselves into a different kind of mess ...

Michael Jul 3rd 2013 1:05 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by md95065 (Post 10782089)
The problem that Florida and other similarly situated states now have is that if they do not recognize same sex marriages that took place in states where it is legal they leave themselves open to to law suits claiming that they are violating the equal protection clause of the US constitution ...

... and, of course, if they do recognize same sex marriages which took place elsewhere while continuing to forbid them in their own state they get themselves into a different kind of mess ...
The supreme court purposely left the state rights issue vague. Although individuals could file a lawsuit, it appears that the supreme court is currently not ready to rule on that issue unless forced to by a lawsuit being won and appealed by the state to the supreme court. If the lawsuit fails, I suspect the supreme court will not take up that case if appealed to the supreme court.

md95065 Jul 3rd 2013 2:43 am
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by Michael (Post 10782105)
The supreme court purposely left the state rights issue vague. Although individuals could file a lawsuit, it appears that the supreme court is currently not ready to rule on that issue unless forced to by a lawsuit being won and appealed by the state to the supreme court. If the lawsuit fails, I suspect the supreme court will not take up that case if appealed to the supreme court.
Agreed, but as long as DOMA was around, and still presumed to be constitutional, states could point to that and say that there was no need for them to recognize same sex marriages from other states. Now that is no longer the case, so I expect that state level law suits will be filed and that whatever the outcome is the losing side will at least attempt to appeal to the supreme court (who, of course, may decide to avoid the issue for a while).

Anyway, this is just the beginning ...

Rete Jul 3rd 2013 1:29 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 10780739)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23140288

Report badly worded but it would seem something has been accepted for processing.

In Allen Wernick's column in Monday's The Daily News, he urged gay couples to apply for spousal visas as long as their marriage occurred in a place where it is legally recognized, be it the US or a foreign country.

SultanOfSwing Jul 3rd 2013 1:36 pm
Re: Gay couple application accepted
 
Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 10781972)
must be saving media studies in case his application is refused. :unsure:
:D

I forgot about that one!


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