Further information on NYS Driver's License Requirements
Feb 5th 2002, 5:53 pm
#1
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Excerpt from the NYS DMV page:
Proof of Name
IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus other documents with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL transactions UNLESS you present a NYS photo license or permit, or unless a DMV office conducts a photo image retrieval from your current license/permit record.
If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you MUST present a letter from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) stating that you are not eligible (0 points) AND 6 points of proof of ID from the list below. The SSA Letter must have been issued within the last 30 days. In addition to the letter from SSA, you MUST present an I-94 with one of the following codes: B-1, B-2, E-2, F-2, H4, L-2, M-2, O-3, P-4, Q-3, R-2 or TD. In addition, the I-94 must have 11 or more months of valid legal status remaining.
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/id.htm
It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a driver's license.
Rita
Proof of Name
IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus other documents with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL transactions UNLESS you present a NYS photo license or permit, or unless a DMV office conducts a photo image retrieval from your current license/permit record.
If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you MUST present a letter from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) stating that you are not eligible (0 points) AND 6 points of proof of ID from the list below. The SSA Letter must have been issued within the last 30 days. In addition to the letter from SSA, you MUST present an I-94 with one of the following codes: B-1, B-2, E-2, F-2, H4, L-2, M-2, O-3, P-4, Q-3, R-2 or TD. In addition, the I-94 must have 11 or more months of valid legal status remaining.
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/id.htm
It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a driver's license.
Rita
Feb 5th 2002, 8:22 pm
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In the past an F-1 was eligible for a social security card. As for the K-1 not being
mentioned, if NYS is going to take the same tact that SC is taking, then the K-1 not
being on there is pertinent. Glad I won't be a trial case.
Rita
Andy Platt" <[email protected]>
[usenetquote2]> > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Excerpt from the NYS DMV page:[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Proof of Name[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus other[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > documents with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > transactions UNLESS you present a NYS photo license or permit, or unless a DMV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > office conducts a photo image retrieval from your current license/permit record.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you MUST present a letter[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) stating that you are not[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > eligible (0 points) AND 6 points of proof of ID from the list below. The SSA[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Letter must have been issued within the last 30 days. In addition to the letter[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > from SSA, you MUST present an I-94 with one of the following codes: B-1, B-2,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > E-2, F-2, H4, L-2, M-2, O-3, P-4, Q-3, R-2 or TD. In addition, the I-94 must[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > have 11 or more months of valid legal status remaining.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/id.htm[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Rita[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Rete and Jim (Can/Am Alumni '98)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > The K1 FAQ http://www.k1faq.com The Mysterious Sealed Brown Envelope[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.k1faq.com/faq_index.htm Update AOS Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html Update POE Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.k1poelist.com/ Update AOS filing: http://www.kamya.com/aos/[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I-130/I-485 Helpsite at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/visainfo/visainfo.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.geocities.com/immigration...-130/index.htm AOS filing; AOS,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I-130 and K-1 Interview Experiences: http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
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mentioned, if NYS is going to take the same tact that SC is taking, then the K-1 not
being on there is pertinent. Glad I won't be a trial case.
Rita
Andy Platt" <[email protected]>
[usenetquote2]> > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Excerpt from the NYS DMV page:[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Proof of Name[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus other[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > documents with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > transactions UNLESS you present a NYS photo license or permit, or unless a DMV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > office conducts a photo image retrieval from your current license/permit record.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you MUST present a letter[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) stating that you are not[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > eligible (0 points) AND 6 points of proof of ID from the list below. The SSA[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Letter must have been issued within the last 30 days. In addition to the letter[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > from SSA, you MUST present an I-94 with one of the following codes: B-1, B-2,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > E-2, F-2, H4, L-2, M-2, O-3, P-4, Q-3, R-2 or TD. In addition, the I-94 must[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > have 11 or more months of valid legal status remaining.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/id.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Rita[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Rete and Jim (Can/Am Alumni '98)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > The K1 FAQ http://www.k1faq.com The Mysterious Sealed Brown Envelope[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.k1faq.com/faq_index.htm Update AOS Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html Update POE Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.k1poelist.com/ Update AOS filing: http://www.kamya.com/aos/[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I-130/I-485 Helpsite at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/visainfo/visainfo.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > http://www.geocities.com/immigration...-130/index.htm AOS filing; AOS,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I-130 and K-1 Interview Experiences: http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
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Feb 5th 2002, 8:50 pm
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Rita wrote:
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Hi All!
A F-1 can get a SSN, but the I-20 and I-94 are required in addition to proof, of age,
identity and their work choices are limited.
This covers it in detail:
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/36f3b...c55c3eb928525-
6a51004df3b8?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,F-1
Take care,
Mike
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Hi All!
A F-1 can get a SSN, but the I-20 and I-94 are required in addition to proof, of age,
identity and their work choices are limited.
This covers it in detail:
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/36f3b...c55c3eb928525-
6a51004df3b8?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,F-1
Take care,
Mike
Feb 6th 2002, 10:51 am
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Rete <[email protected]>
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On a somewhat related note...
When Simon first arrived in KY, he applied for a SSN and was told he needed "a valid
reason" for wanting one. His intending to seek work when he got his EAD and wanting
to open a bank account WERE NOT acceptable reasons, according to the clerk. He said
to go to the DMV and get a letter stating he was needing a SSN in order to get a DL.
We did, and he was then able to apply for his SSN. That was last spring... Fast
forward to the present, where we told this to a Canadian woman married and living
here but still filing papers to "be legal", because she wanted to get a KY DL but
wasn't able to because she didn't have a SSN. The office told her that since 9-11,
policies and procedures have changed and they are no longer granting DL's to anyone
who doesn't have permanent resident status. She also said the SS office also told her
she wasn't eligible to apply for a SSN until her status was adjusted.
I don't know about other states, but we were told that Simon could only use his
international driver's license for 30 days after he moved here, so that isn't
an option for non-residents even. Not sure what the status is re: foreign
students though.
Dawn
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On a somewhat related note...
When Simon first arrived in KY, he applied for a SSN and was told he needed "a valid
reason" for wanting one. His intending to seek work when he got his EAD and wanting
to open a bank account WERE NOT acceptable reasons, according to the clerk. He said
to go to the DMV and get a letter stating he was needing a SSN in order to get a DL.
We did, and he was then able to apply for his SSN. That was last spring... Fast
forward to the present, where we told this to a Canadian woman married and living
here but still filing papers to "be legal", because she wanted to get a KY DL but
wasn't able to because she didn't have a SSN. The office told her that since 9-11,
policies and procedures have changed and they are no longer granting DL's to anyone
who doesn't have permanent resident status. She also said the SS office also told her
she wasn't eligible to apply for a SSN until her status was adjusted.
I don't know about other states, but we were told that Simon could only use his
international driver's license for 30 days after he moved here, so that isn't
an option for non-residents even. Not sure what the status is re: foreign
students though.
Dawn
Feb 6th 2002, 11:42 am
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Rita, here's how you get the driver's license on a K-1:
"IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus other documents
with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL transactions UNLESS you
present a NYS photo license or permit, or unless a DMV office conducts a photo image
retrieval from your current license/permit record."
So, you get your SS card, present it with the other "4 points" documentation
(presumably stuff like a lease or whatever?) and get the license. No need to go to
the next paragraph which talks about what to do if you are ineligible for a SS card.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination. "Rita"
<[email protected]>
[usenetquote2]> > > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > They are eligible for a SS number and so aren't on the list. So, for instance,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > are H-1 or L-1 visa holders - they are eligible for SS numbers[/usenetquote2]
so
[usenetquote2]> > don't need the above. Can F-1 visa holders get an SS number without[/usenetquote2]
being
[usenetquote2]> > work authorized?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Andy.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Excerpt from the NYS DMV page:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Proof of Name[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus[/usenetquote2]
other
[usenetquote2]> > > documents with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > transactions UNLESS you present a NYS photo license or permit, or[/usenetquote2]
unless
[usenetquote2]> > > a DMV office conducts a photo image retrieval from your current license/permit[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > record.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you MUST present[/usenetquote2]
a
[usenetquote2]> > > letter from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) stating that you are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > not eligible (0 points) AND 6 points of proof of ID from the list below. The[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > SSA Letter must have been issued within the last 30 days. In addition to the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > letter from SSA, you MUST present an I-94[/usenetquote2]
with
[usenetquote2]> > > one of the following codes: B-1, B-2, E-2, F-2, H4, L-2, M-2, O-3,[/usenetquote2]
P-4,
[usenetquote2]> > > Q-3, R-2 or TD. In addition, the I-94 must have 11 or more months of valid[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > legal status remaining.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/id.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Rita[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Rete and Jim (Can/Am Alumni '98)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > The K1 FAQ http://www.k1faq.com The Mysterious Sealed Brown Envelope[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.k1faq.com/faq_index.htm Update AOS Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html Update POE Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.k1poelist.com/ Update AOS filing: http://www.kamya.com/aos/[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > I-130/I-485 Helpsite at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/visainfo/visainfo.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.geocities.com/immigration...-130/index.htm AOS filing; AOS,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > I-130 and K-1 Interview Experiences: http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
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"IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus other documents
with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL transactions UNLESS you
present a NYS photo license or permit, or unless a DMV office conducts a photo image
retrieval from your current license/permit record."
So, you get your SS card, present it with the other "4 points" documentation
(presumably stuff like a lease or whatever?) and get the license. No need to go to
the next paragraph which talks about what to do if you are ineligible for a SS card.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination. "Rita"
<[email protected]>
[usenetquote2]> > > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > They are eligible for a SS number and so aren't on the list. So, for instance,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > are H-1 or L-1 visa holders - they are eligible for SS numbers[/usenetquote2]
so
[usenetquote2]> > don't need the above. Can F-1 visa holders get an SS number without[/usenetquote2]
being
[usenetquote2]> > work authorized?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Andy.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Excerpt from the NYS DMV page:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Proof of Name[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > IMPORTANT: You MUST present a Social Security Card (2 points) plus[/usenetquote2]
other
[usenetquote2]> > > documents with an additional point value of at least 4 points for ALL[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > transactions UNLESS you present a NYS photo license or permit, or[/usenetquote2]
unless
[usenetquote2]> > > a DMV office conducts a photo image retrieval from your current license/permit[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > record.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you MUST present[/usenetquote2]
a
[usenetquote2]> > > letter from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) stating that you are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > not eligible (0 points) AND 6 points of proof of ID from the list below. The[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > SSA Letter must have been issued within the last 30 days. In addition to the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > letter from SSA, you MUST present an I-94[/usenetquote2]
with
[usenetquote2]> > > one of the following codes: B-1, B-2, E-2, F-2, H4, L-2, M-2, O-3,[/usenetquote2]
P-4,
[usenetquote2]> > > Q-3, R-2 or TD. In addition, the I-94 must have 11 or more months of valid[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > legal status remaining.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/id.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > It appears that K-1's are not eligible any longer in New York State to obtain a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > driver's license.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Rita[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Rete and Jim (Can/Am Alumni '98)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > The K1 FAQ http://www.k1faq.com The Mysterious Sealed Brown Envelope[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.k1faq.com/faq_index.htm Update AOS Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html Update POE Experiences at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.k1poelist.com/ Update AOS filing: http://www.kamya.com/aos/[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > I-130/I-485 Helpsite at:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/visainfo/visainfo.htm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > http://www.geocities.com/immigration...-130/index.htm AOS filing; AOS,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > I-130 and K-1 Interview Experiences: http://www.kamya.com/interview/intro.html[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
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Feb 6th 2002, 3:49 pm
#6
Concierge
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46,382
Andy
But further on in the site they tell you have to prove you date of birth. If you are a foreigner you have to show INS proof of status. So the four points is not sufficient if you are foreign born.
Excerpt below:
PROOF OF DATE OF BIRTH
You must ALSO SHOW PROOF OF YOUR DATE OF BIRTH. The proof must be the original, or a certified copy from the issuing agency. We will acept any one of the following:
US or US Territory or US territory birth certificate issued and certified by a Board of health ......
NYS Photo Driver License/Permit/Non-Driver ID Card
US Passport
Foreign passport - in English and with a US Visa and valid I-94 attached. If not in English .....
Military Photo ID Card
US Re-entry Permit (I-327)
Refugee Travel Document
Certificate of Citizenship
Certificate of naturalization
Valid Resident Alien Card
Valid EAD
foreign Passport with I-551
But further on in the site they tell you have to prove you date of birth. If you are a foreigner you have to show INS proof of status. So the four points is not sufficient if you are foreign born.
Excerpt below:
PROOF OF DATE OF BIRTH
You must ALSO SHOW PROOF OF YOUR DATE OF BIRTH. The proof must be the original, or a certified copy from the issuing agency. We will acept any one of the following:
US or US Territory or US territory birth certificate issued and certified by a Board of health ......
NYS Photo Driver License/Permit/Non-Driver ID Card
US Passport
Foreign passport - in English and with a US Visa and valid I-94 attached. If not in English .....
Military Photo ID Card
US Re-entry Permit (I-327)
Refugee Travel Document
Certificate of Citizenship
Certificate of naturalization
Valid Resident Alien Card
Valid EAD
foreign Passport with I-551
