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Hi

I don’t know if I’m allowed to post this on here as I am not able to LIVE in the US (sigh!) but I am coming for 3 months and hope to be able to meet up with some nice people?

I tried a different forum to this one and wasted a large part of my life arguing with two very aggressive, sarcastic people (one of whom was a moderator!) about visas – which I didn’t even ask about! - so I’m hoping this might be the forum for me?

I am landing in Orlando on the 5th. July 2016 and have a rough “Itinerary” for my road trip which I give below. I am not a history buff, nor a “Must see every wonderful Park possible” person but do love people so I am “looking” for small-town America? What I am hoping to find on this forum is:-

* People who live somewhere near my route who may be willing to meet up for my offered “Tea and Bun”?
* Suggestions for “Things I should see” and “Places I should go” that aren’t already on my plans?
* Any offers or suggestions (beyond Airbnb who are already at the top of my “Favourites” list!) for cheap places I could stay for a night or two on my travels?

The route at the moment is:-

OUT:- Jacksonville (Sally Corp Animatronic Factory, the Federal Reserve Bank and Budweiser), Georgia (Savannah), South Carolina (Coast to Charleston), North Carolina, Tennessee (Nashville), Arkansas, Missouri (South), Kansas (South), Colorado (South), Utah (South, Zion Park), (North) Arizona (Grand Canyon), Nevada (Central/North), California (Coast Highway 101)
back (sigh!):- California (Yosemite), Nevada (Las Vegas) Arizona (Grand Canyon), New Mexico (Santa Fe), Oklahoma (Oklahoma City), Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia

Thank you – and I hope to meet some of you soon?

Colin

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Hi Colin, welcome to BE.

While there is a lot of energy around visas here too, so long as your visit doesn't exceed 90 days I don't see any issue for you, and certainly not one worth beating you up over. Just be sure to leave a few days in case of emergency, and not leave it to the very last day to leave, so personally I'd plan to leave after no later than the 87th day, and have a tentative plan to drive day and night to the nearest horder in the event that something like 9/11 shuts down the air system, or an Icelandic volcano cuts off the flight routes to the UK.

It looks like your itinerary will be a memorable journey, but personally I find "small town America" rather dull in most cases, and road trips in the South and East Coast are often rather dull with long periods of uninteresting highways. While small towns can be pleasant places to live, they offer relatively little to the visitor. Restaurants are mostly chain restaurants and the "down town area" just a couple of blocks. If you're lucky and the town is "historic", you might find a small art gallery and an sandwich shop that sells icecream. Most places that are considered to be "historic sites" are going to be civil war battlefields and cemeteries.

On your route you are going to see a lot, and I mean a LOT, of trees east of the Mississippi. Then it's going to be very flat until you reach the Rockies. I have never driven that far west, but I imagine that you're not going to find much to do across most of Kansas, Colorado, Utah, and Nevada, and those states are big, with long stretches of nothingness between towns.

For example in NC I have often said, here on BE, that when we get visitors from the UK it is tough to find much of anything to do here, and I would be hard pushed to find one notable thing to do every day for a week even if I drove from the mountains to the coast at Wilmington. IMO Biltmore is the only bona fide "world class" tourist attraction, and that is pretty much just an American "Chatsworth House". The historic center of Winston Salem, NC, known as "Old Salem" is interesting if you want to see a folk museum and some old houses - it's a bit like a small, urban St Fagan's. Otherwise in NC I'd take a minibus tour of the speedway (race track) near Charlotte, NC - it is an impressive facility even if you aren't interested in NASCAR/ racing.

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Welcome to BE, I'm sure you'll find good advice here. To be fair to the other forum though, I didn't see any aggression in the posts there, just some good advice about your chances of a B2 and perhaps rethinking your plan to go for 4 months (which it seems you've done!).

We've just come back from a road trip around California, so have done Yosemite (utterly jaw dropping), Grand Canyon (stunning), Highway 101 (take it slowly, some gorgeous places to stop off) and Las Vegas (erm.......I'd skip that one personally!). If you want cheap places, look at camping. The campsites in the National Parks are just incredible and super cheap.

I'm going to move your thread to the main US forum, as I'm not sure many will see it here, best of luck with your trip.

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You are welcome to stop by when in Tennessee. We are in southern Tennessee about 60 miles south of Nashville. We live near Lynchburg home of Jack Daniels distillery which has a nice free tour. Also very close to Huntsville, Alabama and the Huntsville Space Center and museum. Part of museum is a Saturn 5 rocket on its side elevated on pedestals with the stages separated. If interested in aviation I have a experimental Van's RV 3 and hangar at Tullahoma airport. You could join the wife and I for lunch at a good barbecue joint in Lynchburg. We are both US natives. I am retired (Dentist and Pharmacist)

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Sounds like a fun plan, but I'd second the advice of having a plan to leave a few days before the 90 days for a just in case scenario, especially if there's funky weather putting a hold on flights :)

I've done a couple of long road trips, but these were to get to a specific location, so we dragged them out to hit a few random sites along the way and they really were random.

Might not work for you, but what I did was plan a rough route, then asked folks for scenic variations along the way and for quite a few stretches, was able to run parallel to the interstate and have some fun views without adding a huge amount of time to the drive depending on the time of day we were going. Also knowing I'd want to limit the drive time to 6 hours a day and pin something to do around the mid point, I'd google "things to do in town x" that looked roughly in the middle. It's how we ended up at the Fagen WW2 air museum and the Dum Dum lollipop factory for instance.

As for places to eat, did much the same thing for those towns as well as asking front desk person at hotel's we stayed at for places in the area, especially for dinners.

We managed to avoid chains in most of the drive or if we did a chain, they were ones we didn't have in the New England area.

If you don't have kids and don't mind camping, you can save a fair bit stopping off at camp sites, especially KoA types, but popular areas will book up in advance over the summer.

After a couple of weeks of driving though, it's massively exhausting and I couldn't imagine doing close to 3 months of it. You'd definitely want to plan to stop off for a few days at some of those locations, perhaps go hiking or what not.

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You might want to plot your route on a map, along with mile markers.
It is not that your trip is not possible, but you are tying to get a lot of miles in here.
On my first visit to the US a stranger on the airplane seat next to me asked if it was my first visit to the US. I said yes. He said 'Until you visit, I don't think you can comprehend the scale". I brushed off his comments. He was right.

A road trip from Dallas to El Paso is about 10 hours and 650 miles. You will drive non stop all day, will not stop to see anything, and never leave the state of Texas.

One of my most memorable 'small town' experiences was in Calvert (a city in Robertson County, Texas, with a city population of ~1,000). Lots of historic Victorian era homes. A dusty main street they rolled up each evening. Taking photos of one historic home we were concerned when the owner came out to talk to us. Thinking we were being a bit rude photographing her home we were about to head off. She was actually coming to invite us in. We toured her beautiful home and drank sun tea on the wrap around porch. She regaled us and shared tales of 'the other side of the tracks' where poor African American families lived, kept down by the towns white council. One councilmen supplied the propane, a monopoly he exploited by all accounts. It was shocking that life here was how I imagined life was in the Deep South during the 50's and 60's. Little progress had been made.

Enjoy your trip. Try and stay off the beaten path occasionally. Talk to the locals (we found small town cafes, antique shops and the like had interesting people who knew where to visit and what to see).

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One of my favorite places in Florida is St. Augustine, about 45 mins south of Jacksonville. St. Augustine lays claim to being the oldest city in the U.S., and is known for its Spanish colonial architecture as well as Atlantic Ocean beaches. There's also the "Prince of Wales" (run by an expat) on George St. if you fancy a pint :)

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Clary's café in Savannah for breakfast is worth a try.

If you do the Biltmore then head from NC to Nashville by including the Blue Ridge Parkway, especially the stretch between SR215 heading North to US74 and then along 441 through the Smokies to Gatlinburg - still lots of trees but some of the most stunning views in the South-Eastern US

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Don't worry if the views on the BRP cause you to swoon, the monstrosity that is Gatlinburg will help you recover. :rolleyes:

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Well, I live in Austin, Texas which looks like it might fit in well with your trip back. It's a nice enough place - very unlike the rest of Texas with lots of live music and pretty fun.. you'd be welcome to stop by and have a cup of tea with us.

South Colorado has Durango which I love. A very pretty, smallish town at 7000 ft surrounded by mountains and beautiful forests. Mesa Verde park is a short drive away on the Arizona border and there is an amazing drive you can take through silver/iron ore mining country high in the mountains . Silverton is worth a visit and 2 places you can camp at = Lightner Creek campsite in Durango is fab, it's where we always stay and Molas Lake campsite (the highest campsite in the US at 10,000 ft) is magical. Both places will need to be booked in advance. You can do a pretty good white water raft expedition on the Animas river down from Silverton to Durango or do what I do with the kids because I'm a cheapskate - buy your own rings and go down through durango and then go back up on the local free bus.

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Excuse me:....I beg to differ.

There are plenty of much nicer parts of Texas than Austin:thumbdown:

The real "hill country" , Boerne, Bandera, Kerrville, Fredricksberg, Comfort to name a few, are lovely places to visit. Alpine, Fort Davis, Marfa in the south west..

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Maybe you could actually read what I wrote?

I have also travelled around Texas and haven't come across anywhere like Austin. In fact my new next door neighbours are from Houston (Katy) and tell me how lovely Austin is compared to Houston.. Fort Davis and Marfa are miles and miles out of this guy's way. Like Thinbrit mentioned, a whole day's drive away.

The hill country towns? Tourist shop crap mostly. The countryside around is ok but I'm not sure I'd go out of my way to visit them if I was doing a tour of the US. I think Big Bend and Palo Duro canyon are worth a visit but Big Bend (one of my favourite places) is 10 hours drive from Austin. Since I live fairly close I've been to Fredericksburg a few times and been raher underwhelmed by it. I've tried some Texas wines and don't feel inclined to visit the "winerys" - spoiled by the "vineyards" of France I guess.

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WOW!!!

Does anyone know of a Forum where you can recommend Forums??? This one is fantastic! So many of you have taken the time to reply to me, I am overwhelmed - and very grateful!

Let me try to reply to you all in one go.....

Pulaski – Thanks for your advice on visas and the lack of tourist attractions in small towns, but it’s the PEOPLE I’m more interested in meeting, rather than viewing history or galleries and the like? I have been warned about some stretches being unimaginably boring but I’m hoping that by taking a route that’s like my golf-game, I can find things to keep me going, even if it’s only chatting to people in some out-of-the-way diner? And Charlotte has been added to my list so thanks for that too!

Christmasoompa – I just used the word “Aggression” to describe the other forum rather than go into detail about how I asked a number of questions there which were ignored and instead got answers to questions I hadn’t asked? Thanks for your suggestion about camping…. Does that involve bringing your own equipment like tents and so on, or do they provide that for you? Thank you also for putting my thread where it should be – I do appreciate it!

Ddsrph – I would love to meet up with you and your wife for lunch! When I am getting close to you, perhaps I could contact you on here to make arrangements?

Bob – With 3 months to play with, I’m hoping I can do some driving, find a place I’d like to get to know better and a place to stay while I’m there, have a few days or a week or so not driving at all, and then back on the road when I feel like it? I don’t know what a “KoA” type of camp site is, but again, do they supply equipment? And I hope to avoid as many “popular areas” as I possibly can throughout the whole trip….

Thinbrit – I have been warned by many of my American friends that the States is not like the UK in terms of distances…. But again, I’d be happy to do a day’s driving contemplating life and singing along to the radio if I could find a diner along the way with a few nice people to talk to? I also plan to do lots of stops en route for at least a few days at a time so intend to mix up my experiences? In fact, your experience in Calvert is EXACTLY what I’m looking for and I would count that as a Good Day! And whilst there are some tourist traps I really DO want to “do”, my whole adventure is to otherwise stay as far away from the “beaten path” as I possibly can and talk to as many locals as I can?

DebzinUS – Thanks for your suggestion. I thought long and hard about St. Augustine but I would really like to get out of Florida as quickly as I can, but have been told I MUST see Jacksonville?

Zzrmark – I’m not sure I want to see Biltmore particularly but I have certainly added the route you suggest to my plans! Thank you!

Pulaski – A 2.1 mile aerial cable-car? I will certinaly try to find the courage to give that a go!

Petitefrancaise – I was trying to avoid “Big Cities” as much as possible as my experience of them in Europe is – you’ve got lost in one, you’ve got lost in ‘em all! That said, I’d love to meet up with you? Can I message you on here when I’m getting close to you? I also like the sound of the two campsites you mention (providing you don’t have to take your own tent and stuff?) but I am reluctant to book as I don’t know when and if I’ll get there? But being on my own, by myself, maybe they could squeeze me in if I do make it?

Sugarmooma – Of all the warnings I have been given about becoming bored senseless while driving many parts of the US, most of them have been given about Texas, so it’s great to know that there are some little places I can look forward to visiting?

Once again, thank you to all of you who took the time to reply to me. Your comments have been taken on board and I'm sure, will make my trip more enjoyable? Look forward to meeting a couple of you soon?

Colin

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Woe betide anyone critiques Austin. I think some people should try living in a genuine world class city before hyping up their tiny corner of this country

Regarding the op, I've done smaller road trips but been to many of the places you've highlighted, a couple of spots I'd recommend: Mrs Wilkes Dinning Room in Savannha. They don't do reservations and have very limited opening hours, lines out the door long before they open but I would strongly urge you to make the effort to go here. It was the best eating experience of my life and I'm a self confessed foody. Obama has eaten here, it will honestly blow your mind. Proper southern cooking, proper southern hospitality. You won't find anything like this at a chain or pretentious restaurant

Footage of Obama there:

Hominy Grill in Charleston. This little restaurant/cafe has been on numerous food shows, Anthony Bourdain has filmed here. If you've never tried a biscuit or don't even know what one is, have it here

Plan a trip to a local plantation while you're in the south, the one I went to was Magnolia in Charleston. It's one of the biggest and best in the area. Amazing history and scenic beauty here, even saw a wild turtle in the lake. This is the type of history Brits don't tend to take in when they come over here so I would recommend it if you really want a unique experience you won't forget in a hurry

Nashville - plan a visit to the Country Music Hall of Fame, should go without saying. Doesn't matter if you hate country music, it's a local and national landmark. The strip in Nashville is a great night out, especially if you like country music. Food wise, there's lots of bbq joints and those that do hot chicken which is the local delicacy meaning spicy fried chicken. 2 spots I would recommend for these: Jack's Bar-B-Que, which is on the main strip (can't miss it), and Hattie B's hot chicken, which is further down town

I'm sure you won't need telling but your route completely excludes many of America's greatest cities - New York and Chicago among them. Boston should really be in there as well. Given you're going to Kansas, I'm not sure why you wouldn't at least cram in Chicago - America's 2nd city. If you do decide to come here, I will happily meet you but I'll pass on the tea and buns. I'll treat you to some local pizza pie - the famous Chicago deep dish and pint of Goose pale ale - one of Chicago's best beers

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It's good to see you're on-point and relevant, as always. :lol:

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Camping Reservations, Campgrounds and Campsites| KOA

Some sites have rentals, some sites have small basic cabins and then you use the shared facilities such as the shower/bathroom.

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Hi Themadpooper!

Thanks for your suggestions!

I'm not a great "foody" I'm afraid - I've been amazed at the fantastic quality of your McDonalds and KFC's when I've been in the States before, compared with the tasteless crap they sell in the UK! I'm a meat-and-chips person, but I am REALLY looking forward to the Barbecue places! What IS a baby-back rib anyway and do you have biscuits with it? Digestives, I trust?

Yes, the Country Music Hall of Fame is a must! But I will keep my mouth firmly shut while there as, whilst I have always liked a bit of C&W, I went off the style when I learned devotees claimed the Eagles (my favourite band!) were "Country!!!!

I have avoided most of the Big Cities as, in Europe at least, my experience of them is that they are all much the same? I'm sure you will tell me I'm wrong, but I've only got 3 months so maybe I can do a Big Place tour another time?

Thanks again!

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Just looked at the one in Jacksonville Bob and they are more expensive than a motel? If there were 6 of me, it would be really cheap, but on my own.....

Thanks anyway...

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Ignores my exhaustive and well meaning post to have a pop at 1 sentence. Well done

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Well I was grateful - as I am for ALL comments and suggestions that have anything to do with the questions I asked, and NOT %^& visas!!!!

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While in Nashville it is worth visiting RCA Studio B where Elvis and many others recorded. You buy the tickets at the Country Music Hall of Fame and they take you on a mini-bus for the tour.

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Pork ribs, cooked in one piece, "a rack", and they are a specific part of the rib, but that is getting a bit technical, knowing that they are pork ribs is likely sufficient. :)The closest living relative of the "biscuit" is a scone, but a biscuit is a bit less "cakey" than a scone.

Across much of the area you'll be traveling, (the east of the Mississippi legs, plus Texas) a lot of non-chain restaurants don't sell alcohol, so no beer with dinner. The biggest clue is any restaurant that describes itself as a "family" restaurant is one that doesn't sell alcohol. Also non-chain fish restaurants are typically "dry" too.

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Thanks again Pulaski. As you say "Pork" is enough for me to know and I can't wait to try them! And a biscuit is, in fact, a kind of bread roll then? Again, good enough for me! I don't drink and drive (even a beer!) so dry eateries is not a problem but I do my best to make up for that when the car is parked for the night!

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Sort of, kind of, but IMO not in a good way. Pretty much anything would be preferable - yeast roll, dinner roll, French roll, bakery roll, wheat roll, :sneaky:etc. And biscuits usually aren't buttered, so they're dry too. :(

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Camping in America is different to camping in the UK. I have not come across a UK-style farmers field were you either have it to yourself in March or the tents get packed in next to each other on a bank holiday. The camp sites tend to be more up market, more RVs than tents. Dedicated areas to each booking, a pull in area, a table with benches and camp fire pit, optional hook up for electricity, water and sewage. The KoA sites tend to be a bit more on the housing estate model than park or forestry land camp sites. I prefer the later, but the former might suit you more if it is just a stop over on the way to somewhere else. The costs of camping in America is also significantly more expensive than camping in the UK, and sometime, not much cheaper than a cheap end motel.

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Both likely come with similar exposure to insects and rodents too. :rolleyes:

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A couple of years ago we did a 'short' road trip Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and back again. Some of our highlights were

New Mexico - Carsbad Caverns, Worlds Largest Pistachio
Arizona - Sedona, Salt River Tubing, Grand Canyon
Nevada - Las Vegas (it's a small town right?)

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Get thyself to the great state of Texas and eat a good biscuit, buttery, flaky, salty, warm out the oven - delicious!

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Sounds like the trip of a lifetime!

I'm not at all familiar with the South East - my only experience there was South Carolina. Get into the Great Smoky Mountains and stop at a road-side boiled-peanut stand to chat with locals. I found the people in SC to be incredibly welcoming and friendly.

Northern Arizona around the Grand Canyon area is great, but you might find it too touristy. Still, I tend to think you shouldn't travel in the area without going on Route 66 and visiting a museum or two ;) There's a good one in Kingman, just opposite a nice little diner (has a statue of Elvis - what more could you ask?). Williams is a cute little town but, again, may not be up your alley, since it is a tourist mecca.

Do try to do some rafting in Utah, if you can (though you may not find anything close to your route). Rafting through the red rock canyons is quite an experience.

Nevada, in my opinion, is there to be traversed as quickly as humanly possible.

California... you're unlikely to find small-town America here ;) The PCH and Yosemite are stunningly beautiful but attract vast quantities of visitors, so there isn't a lot that's "off the beaten track". I'm not sure when you're aiming to be in Yosemite, but you may want to consider booking accommodation in advance there as it gets booked up incredibly early. If you can't get accommodation in the park, many places outside will offer shuttle services to get you there. Climb the mist trail to the top of Vernal Falls. Try to get to Mammoth Lakes as well and, if you have time, Lake Tahoe.

I'm in the SF Bay Area. It'd be great to hear about your experiences if you're in my neck of the woods :D

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I really like biscuits! So long as they don't come with that horrendous white gravy...

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I would recommend camping in State Parks. They usually have sites that cater to the type that considers a fifty foot motor home camping but also have campsites that cater to the tent and sleeping bag variety. The basic sites are usually very cheap and most have a shower building nearby. You can find a lot of info online at the individual state park sites that will include photos and prices.
My wife and I are in the process of downsizing and giving away a lot of stuff. I have a small tent with external fiberglass poles that assembles in minutes and a barely used sleeping bag that I bought many years ago to carry in airplane. You are welcome to have both and all I have to do is find them, somewhere in hangar or attic.

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I see you are landing in Florida but it wasn't on the itinary. I did find Tarpon Springs and interesting old town.

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:rofl:

I'm not allowed to give you any more Karma until I've spread it around!

To the OP, sure, pm me when you think you'll be my way. Austin isn't a big city at all and nothing like London, Paris, New York and Dallas which is where I've lived before at various times... . Don't take any notice of the mad shitter, he's never ever got anything useful to say. In his own world, mad is the word indeed. Maybe you could entice him to the aforementioned forum?

I assumed you'd be rv'ing? Are you staying in hotels?

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Just read through a couple of more posts...

you will have basic camping equipment and a car?

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As an example go to Tennessee State parks website and look at South Cumberland State park. It has many hiking trails and great scenery. The campsites are from $8 to $45. This park is north of Chattanooga in direction of Nashville.

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Telling a single bloke from the UK to go camping in Southern America is very odd advice. He wants to have a good time seeing real America, not kipping in a field with a bunch of families who will probably think he's a paedo

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It also is very warm/humid for a Brit. It's nice to go back to a room with AC in the evening.

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It's funny what is regarded as "real america" isn't it? I'd much,much rather get off the beaten track and into mountains and state parks than stay in small town USA. For me the beauty and grandeur of the USA lies not in the average city or town but out in the wild. I know some people would go from smart hotel to smart hotel to spa resort and consider they'd seen the USA but that's just the disney/macdo version. Sure, stay in a lovely hotel in a big city and be pampered but why stay in a grotty motel on the side of a highway just to visit small town America. Sugarmooma, another neighbour hails from Fort Davis, her mother runs the local newspaper - and what she says about it doesn't make me want to visit it at all. But Fort Davis is close to some absolutely superb mountains....

To the OP, maybe someone can point you to a rental place - but in Colorado I saw some small camper vans that were not much bigger than a people carrier which would be great to get around in. Maybe someone knows of a similar company in FL? https://www.jucyusa.com/rv-rental-locations/

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yes, I was going to mention this.... in Colorado camping is lovely during the summer. Not Texas/Utah/New Mexico though.

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This looks like fun. At @100 /night not a bad deal. There does seem to be a lot of add-ons to consider.

We have been looking at trying to buy something like this. I wonder if they sell them on. Most RV's in the US cannot accommodate child seats.