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mogscat Mar 5th 2019 1:23 pm

former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
I have just had my teaching quals checked and they are not accepted (I teach English in a further ed college in UK).

I'd be really interested to know what other former teachers and lecturers in the same situation have done work-wise in the US! Looking for some real life examples to inspire me!

Hotscot Mar 5th 2019 1:34 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
FWIW

Mrs H. is an English teacher. 20 years now.
She's burned out and leaving teaching this year but too young to retire so she's looking at another career.
Writing, editing, copy writing, technical writing, marketing, web design, online teaching, corporate training...

Have a look at indeed.com and you'll get an idea.

Where exactly were your credentials declined in the US?

(Correct me if I'm wrong but from your past posts you don't seem to have any current route to the US?)

Pulaski Mar 5th 2019 1:42 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
From what I understand, community colleges, colleges, and universities are not tied to the teaching license requirements of public (state-funded) schools, so there may be teaching opportuinies there for you. If you're not familiar with them, community colleges operate like a combination of sixth form colleges and technical colleges, teaching mostly local people both basic academics - English, maths, Spanish, history, science etc, for people who for whatever reason didn't complete their high school diploma at 18, and/or trade skills - plumbing, carpentry, heating/air, hairdressing, car mechanics, etc. Also private schools, which is a very mixed bag in the US, can also hire without regard to teaching license requirements.

Hotscot Mar 5th 2019 1:45 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12648309)
Also private schools, which is a very mixed bag in the US, can also hire without regard to teaching license requirements.

Oh that's right.
In many areas private school teachers don't need to be qualified in the subject that they teach.
Just have to have stayed at a Holiday Inn I suppose...

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 5th 2019 1:53 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
I know 2, one became a Librarian and the other works at a Brew Pub.

Most of the teachers I know do not want to do it but have no real other options.

mogscat Mar 5th 2019 1:54 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
Hi Hotscot
Thanks for this. I know how Mrs H feels. I am not too distraught at the idea of not teaching!
My quals were not acceptable to Alberta Education. I am not coming to the US but it was suggested that former teachers on US forum might have some relevant experience to share so here I am on the 'wrong' forum!

Hotscot Mar 5th 2019 2:00 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by mogscat (Post 12648316)
Hi Hotscot
Thanks for this. I know how Mrs H feels. I am not too distraught at the idea of not teaching!
My quals were not acceptable to Alberta Education. I am not coming to the US but it was suggested that former teachers on US forum might have some relevant experience to share so here I am on the 'wrong' forum!


Nice to hear from you. Interesting discussion is always welcome!:wave:
I'm quite surprised your qualifications were not acceptable.
Who do they think they are...?

Not being critical...but do you have a degree? Is that the sticking point?

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 5th 2019 2:02 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
Perhaps seek career guidance where you live now?

mogscat Mar 5th 2019 2:24 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
I have a degree, a PGCE (the 16+ specialism) and 14 years teaching experience. Having these rejected is annoying but not the end of the world as long as there is some realistic alternative for me. Any examples of former teacher/lecturers who've been set free in this way (?!) and found a new path would be very interesting.

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 5th 2019 2:27 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
That would depend on your interests, skill sets etc and location, what might be practical where you live may not be elsewhere and vice versa. And of course job opportunities.

I can think of a friend who had a Degree in Archaeology who ended up working last I heard in Insurance.

Anian Mar 5th 2019 3:28 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
Depending on where you live, just having a degree could qualify you for many teaching positions. My school district is so desperate for substitute teachers that you only need a degree and a background check, and you'll have work almost every school day. Then you can get a teaching qualification they recognise at a community college.

Pulaski Mar 5th 2019 3:41 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12648376)
Depending on where you live, just having a degree could qualify you for many teaching positions. My school district is so desperate for substitute teachers that you only need a degree and a background check, and you'll have work almost every school day. Then you can get a teaching qualification they recognise at a community college.

Some cities are always hiring, there can be very high, almost continuous turnover, but there are usually very good reasons why teachers don't stay - sometimes community issues, other times utterly inept school system management. ….. About ten years ago a new superintendent of schools was hired in Charlotte, NC (actually Mecklenburg county, which is Charlotte plus a few small adjoining cities and the unincorporated remnants of the county) had this "great idea" to improve underperforming schools, by reassigning all the best teachers to the worst-performing schools. The outcome was entirely predictable to anyone with half a brain - literally half all teachers in the county resigned within two years!!! :blink: Needless to say there wasn't an improvement in performance in any school, and the performance of some schools declined. Equally unsurprisingly the superintendent of schools also resigned.

Hotscot Mar 5th 2019 5:18 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12648376)
Depending on where you live, just having a degree could qualify you for many teaching positions. My school district is so desperate for substitute teachers that you only need a degree and a background check, and you'll have work almost every school day. Then you can get a teaching qualification they recognise at a community college.


For subs our district pays about $120 a day. All the work you want.
I took the test and qualified to be a sub, and also qualified to teach Physics.
Lucky escape when I started my business though:D

(After all not many places I can drink wine after my morning hike...hic..:drinkwine:...)

Pulaski Mar 5th 2019 5:28 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Hotscot (Post 12648428)
For subs our district pays about $120 a day. ...

So $24,000pa, based on a 200 day school year (I am not sure if most school districts' years are even that long). NC used to be known for ranking 49th in starting teachers pay levels, that was about ten years ago, when starting pay was around $32,000pa IRC. …. In other words, in 2019 $24,000pa in California isn't even subsistence level pay! :(

Hotscot Mar 5th 2019 5:35 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
It's fine here..
https://www.zillow.com/trona-ca/:lol:
(For all those who just dream of moving to California!)

But you're correct; it's usually retirees or younger people taking short term work.
I wouldn't make it a career but $120 a day is nice to have for not much effort.

Even thought about doing it myself just for fun and for a wee bit extra spending money but I can't face the hordes.
And sadly I have all the DeWalt tools and bits I 'need'.:(

(Plus they'd keep asking about my kilt. It's bad enough when I bring them pizza on Friday's, and doughnuts for the security guys that let me in the side door against school rules.)

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 5th 2019 8:07 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12648430)
So $24,000pa, based on a 200 day school year (I am not sure if most school districts' years are even that long). NC used to be known for ranking 49th in starting teachers pay levels, that was about ten years ago, when starting pay was around $32,000pa IRC. …. In other words, in 2019 $24,000pa in California isn't even subsistence level pay! :(

Well I know somebody was was subbing and it was not full time, just fill in, money was bad, not sure it was $15. And no benefits.

zzrmark Mar 6th 2019 1:55 am

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Hotscot (Post 12648303)
FWIW

Mrs H. is an English teacher. 20 years now.
She's burned out and leaving teaching this year but too young to retire so she's looking at another career.

Mrs z. is also an English teacher and will have reached the maximum pension benefit available in two years and thinks the state takes the mickey with pensions so isn't planning on hanging around.
She considers herself too young to retire and is looking at going into something close to every teachers heart, alcohol! Specifically, brewing beer!! :drinkingbeer:

Hotscot Mar 6th 2019 2:03 am

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 
Well Mrs H. does mix a perfect Manhattan....hic...

fbf2006 Mar 8th 2019 6:52 pm

Re: former teachers and lecturers - what work do you do now?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12648309)
From what I understand, community colleges, colleges, and universities are not tied to the teaching license requirements of public (state-funded) schools, so there may be teaching opportuinies there for you. If you're not familiar with them, community colleges operate like a combination of sixth form colleges and technical colleges, teaching mostly local people both basic academics - English, maths, Spanish, history, science etc, for people who for whatever reason didn't complete their high school diploma at 18, and/or trade skills - plumbing, carpentry, heating/air, hairdressing, car mechanics, etc. Also private schools, which is a very mixed bag in the US, can also hire without regard to teaching license requirements.

Community colleges are typically the first two years of university, so they do have many students that have completed high school. They just have entry level courses that one would typically take in a 4 year college/university. Many students then transfer to 4 year university when done.



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