Hi,
My wife recently came to the United States on the K3 visa (spouse of US citizen-nonimmigrant visa). We are currently filling out form I-485 to asjust her status to an immigrant. Which box do I need to check off on part 2 of the i-485 form. There is no category for k3 visa. Thanks for the help :) - khabibiuf |
That does not make any sense.......... you have a pending I-130....and you can file a
I-485 ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > |
[usenetquote2]> > My wife recently came to the United States on the K3 visa (spouse of US[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > citizen-nonimmigrant visa). We are currently filling out form I-485 to asjust her[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > status to an immigrant. Which box do I need to check off on part 2 of the i-485[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > form. There is no category for k3 visa.[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] Ben Johnson wrote: > > Yep, sho' nuff. Read the INS posting to the Federal Register, and you will see that it is so: http://k1.exit.com/fedreg.html US citizens' spouse's can file I-485 if they have a notice of receipt from an I-130 that has been filed, they do not have to have the approval in order to do this for spouse that is already in the US. BTW, original poster should write in that it is a K-3, and indicate option (a): an immediate relative petition is immediately available. Alvena ----------------------- Doc Steen Site: http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm ========================================= I am not a lawyer and this is not immigration advice. This is my personal opinion, posted for the purpose of discussion only. Locate an immigration attorney in your area at: http://www.aila.org ========================================= |
Alvena,
I have seen that document, and in more than one place there is a statement similar to " Once in the United States, those in K-3 or K-4 status may file for adjustment of status at any time following the approval of their Form I-130 petition as immediate relatives of U.S. citizens, and most will do so very quickly after such approval" I inferred from that....that one needs to have the 130 approved prior to filing the 485. Where does it state that pending a 130 approval, one can file the 485....other than the following from section III A, which does not refer to K-3/K-4 receipients.."The Service notes, however, that neither of these prohibitions will affect the ability of alien spouses and children of U.S. citizens in the United States to remain. A United States citizen's spouse and children remain eligible to file for permanent residency at any time if the petitioner files Form I-130, and the beneficiary files Form I-485, Application for Adjustment to Permanent Residence. While these are pending, the spouse of the U.S. citizen and his or her child may remain in the United States without accruing unlawful presence, and may obtain work authorization and permission to travel outside the United States and return. Ben [usenetquote2]> > > My wife recently came to the United States on the K3 visa (spouse of[/usenetquote2] US [usenetquote2]> > > citizen-nonimmigrant visa). We are currently filling out form I-485 to asjust[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > > her status to an immigrant. Which box do I need to check off on part 2 of the[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > > i-485 form. There is no category for k3 visa.[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2] > [usenetquote2]> > That does not make any sense.......... you have a pending I-130....and[/usenetquote2] you [usenetquote2]> > can file a I-485 ??????[/usenetquote2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
I can see there is some confusion in the verbage of that document (the register) and
the ammended law.... Law : 12. Section 245.1 is amended by revising paragraph (c)(6), and by adding a new paragraph (i), to read as follows: Sec. 245.1 Eligibility.* * * * * (i) Adjustment of status from K-3/K-4 status. An alien admitted to the United States as a K-3 under section 101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act may apply for adjustment of status to that of a permanent resident pursuant to section 245 of the Act at any time following the approval of the Form I-130 petition filed on the alien's behalf, by the same citizen who petitioned for the alien's K-3 status. Verbage from Register posting.... IV. Adjusting Status From K-3/K-4 to Permanent Resident As previously stated, the Service expects most K-3/K-4 aliens to quickly file for adjustment of status following admission to the United States. Those admitted as K-3/K-4 aliens do not have to wait for a visa number to become current and may apply for adjustment at any time following the filing of the Form I-130 petition (or both may be filed concurrently for the K-4). > > > > > I-130 > > > > > > > > to > > > > if > > pending, > United > authorization > > > > > > [usenetquote2]> > > > My wife recently came to the United States on the K3 visa (spouse of[/usenetquote2] > [usenetquote2]> > > > citizen-nonimmigrant visa). We are currently filling out form I-485[/usenetquote2] to [usenetquote2]> > > > asjust her status to an immigrant. Which box do I need to check off[/usenetquote2] on [usenetquote2]> > > > part 2 of the i-485 form. There is no category for k3 visa.[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > Ben Johnson wrote:[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > > That does not make any sense.......... you have a pending I-130....and[/usenetquote2] > [usenetquote2]> > > can file a I-485 ??????[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > Yep, sho' nuff. Read the INS posting to the Federal Register, and you will see[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > that it is so: http://k1.exit.com/fedreg.html US citizens' spouse's can file[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > I-485 if they have a notice of receipt from an I-130 that has been filed, they do[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > not have to have the approval in order to do this for spouse that is already in[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > the US. BTW, original poster should write in that it is a K-3, and indicate[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > option (a): an immediate relative petition is immediately available. Alvena[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > -----------------------[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > Doc Steen Site: http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/visainfo/visainfo.htm[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > =========================================[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > I am not a lawyer and this is not immigration advice. This is my personal[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > opinion, posted for the purpose of discussion only. Locate an immigration[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > attorney in your area at: http://www.aila.org[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > =========================================[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] |
Ben Johnson wrote:
> > > See the instructions on the INS site for filing of the I-485, and note that they do not require approved I-130 in order to file: http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/fo...orms/i-485.htm --- "If you are the immediate relative (spouse, parent or unmarried child under 21 years old) of a U.S. citizen, submit the following forms: I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or to Adjust Status G-325A, Biographic Information ==>>> Either your original I-130, Petition for Alien Relative (if you are filing concurrently), OR a copy of your I-130 (if the original petition has been submitted but is NOT yet processed), OR a copy of your I-797, Notice of Action (if the petition was already approved). I-864, Affidavit of Support I-693, Medical Examination of Aliens Seeking Adjustment of Status All required supporting documentation as listed on the above forms. --- Alvena ----------------------- Doc Steen Site: http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm ========================================= I am not a lawyer and this is not immigration advice. This is my personal opinion, posted for the purpose of discussion only. Locate an immigration attorney in your area at: http://www.aila.org ========================================= |
Alvena,
Those instructions are not referring to K-3 recepients (granted they do not exclude them...but then again...that form and instructions pre date the implentation of the K-3).......the ammended law (section 245 referring to adjustment of status) is crystal clear on the matter and mentions K-3s specifically and in doing so states "following the approval of an I-130" Has anyone successfully AOS'ed from a K-3 on a not yet approved I-130 ? I do not care one way or the other.... I just would not want to see people sending the INS checks for filing forms they are not yet eligible to file. Ben > [usenetquote2]> > I can see there is some confusion in the verbage of that document (the register)[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > and the ammended law....[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Ben Johnson wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All! Does this help? http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/pu...life081401.htm Applying for Immigrant Status The K-3/4 nonimmigrant classification does not provide immigrant status. To obtain immigrant status --once in the United States -- a K-3 nonimmigrant must file a Form I-485 (Application for Adjustment to Permanent Residence). A K-4 nonimmigrant must have a Form I-130 filed on his/her behalf by his/her U.S. citizen parent/stepparent and must file a Form I-485. K-3/4 non-immigrants will become lawful permanent residents and receive their Green Card when both the Form I-130 petition and their Form I-485 application have been approved. K-3/4 non-immigrants may elect to apply for an immigrant visa instead of adjustment of status and may wait in the United States until they must appear at the consulate for their visa interview. Take care, Mike :) |
Ben Johnson wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Ben, they can file, they just won't be adjusted until the I-130 is fully approved. Read this page: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...me=2001_regis- ter&docid=fr14au01-1 Where it says: "As previously stated, the Service expects most K-3/K-4 aliens to quickly file for adjustment of status following admission to the United States. Those admitted as K-3/K-4 aliens do NOT have to wait for a visa number to become current and may apply for adjustment AT ANY TIME following the filing of the Form I-130 petition (or both may be filed concurrently for the K-4)." What part of that do you not understand? Alvena ----------------------- Doc Steen Site: http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm ========================================= I am not a lawyer and this is not immigration advice. This is my personal opinion, posted for the purpose of discussion only. Locate an immigration attorney in your area at: http://www.aila.org ========================================= |
That really does not address the issue of timing of the filing for the 485 with
respect to the status of the 130. Also, this is a news release, not regulation or procedures. Since the actual regulation on the matter (ammended section 245.1 of the 8 CFR) is quite readable and clear, why not just acquiesce to it ? > > [usenetquote2]> > Alvena,[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > Those instructions are not referring to K-3 recepients (granted they do[/usenetquote2] not [usenetquote2]> > exclude them...but then again...that form and instructions pre date the[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > implentation of the K-3).......the ammended law (section 245 referring[/usenetquote2] to [usenetquote2]> > adjustment of status) is crystal clear on the matter and mentions K-3s[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > specifically and in doing so states "following the approval of an I-130"[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > Has anyone successfully AOS'ed from a K-3 on a not yet approved I-130 ?[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > I do not care one way or the other.... I just would not want to see[/usenetquote2] people [usenetquote2]> > sending the INS checks for filing forms they are not yet eligible to[/usenetquote2] file. [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> > Ben[/usenetquote2] [usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2] > > > > > > > > > > To > must > K-4 > U.S. > non-immigrants > both > approved. > > > appear > > > > > > |
In that very document... in one or two other instances it states "may be filed
following approval" In addition to that, the ammended LAW stated in that document ...(which is the governing authority for the document in the first place) not the register itself....states "following approval" As for the paragraph you mention....... it conflicts with the "previously stated" paragraph (under extension of status) which reads "The Service expects that this requirement will have no impact on the majority of aliens entering as K-3 or K-4 nonimmigrants. Once in the United States, those in K-3 or K-4 status may file for adjustment of status at any time following the approval of their Form I-130 " Also, that paragraph is not defining a procedure, citing a regulation or anything of the sort. That is done clearly in the regulations at the bottom of the document. > > > > http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-..._register&doci d=fr14au01-1 > > > > > > > > > |
Ben Johnson wrote: Well, Ben, I cannot convince you, but let me say this:
I'm willing to betcha a dollar to a doughnut that the K-3 can file for AOS as soon as he/she hits the door of the US. I'm confident enough about it, that I'm gonna be cocky and state unequivocably that one CAN do it. Obviously I don't have proof enough for you, but I have proof enough for me. I am basing this partially on known history that one can file a I-485 when the I-130 approval is not yet received, reference this old newsgroup post where a couple filed at Memphis with only the notice of action from a I-130 that had been filed with the service center and then filed AOS at Memphis with that notice of action: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....supernews.com I base the rest of it on the precise instructions on the I-485 form itself, which plainly state you can do so. You are, of course, allowed to believe whatever you want. Anyone who has questions should contact his or her local INS office for directives, or an immigration attorney. Alvena ----------------------- Doc Steen Site: http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm ========================================= I am not a lawyer and this is not immigration advice. This is my personal opinion, posted for the purpose of discussion only. Locate an immigration attorney in your area at: http://www.aila.org ========================================= |
Back to the original question...
So I should choose option "a)" on the i-485 form? option a) says... "an immigrant petition giving me an immediately available immigrant visa number has been approved" An immigrant petition has not been approved yet in my case (i-130). The k3 is "non-immigrant"??? So i don't think i could choose this answer. also... box "a)" doesn't have a write in option available. ??? Thanks, - khabibiuf |
khabibiuf wrote:
> > > > > > OK, you are gonna have to write/cram something similar to this somewhere in that section near the checkboxes: "K-3, I-130 approval pending" that should do it. Bear in mind, you won't get adjusted until the I-130 is approved, however that should not be too terribly long. This at least gets your number in the stack. Alvena ----------------------- Doc Steen Site: http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm ========================================= I am not a lawyer and this is not immigration advice. This is my personal opinion, posted for the purpose of discussion only. Locate an immigration attorney in your area at: http://www.aila.org ========================================= |
Do I need to notify INS/service center that my wife got the k3 visa? I think they will try to send the visa for the i-130 to the consulate abroad. How do I notify them? Do I just write a letter to the service center where I sent the I-130? Thanks, - khabibiuf |
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