Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Oct 27th 2006, 11:34 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
what do you do for a living? or was this at uni? I am always nosey 
I'm an RN.
I also minored in Psych and Sociology.
Oct 27th 2006, 11:40 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by BrigieDarling
I'm an RN.
I also minored in Psych and Sociology.
I also minored in Psych and Sociology.
and what area do you work in? sorry for the questions but your background is really interesting.
I'm a RGN but haven't practiced for years now.
Oct 27th 2006, 11:54 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
so did you do that over here and I take it you did the paper for sociology?
and what area do you work in? sorry for the questions but your background is really interesting.
I'm a RGN but haven't practiced for years now.
and what area do you work in? sorry for the questions but your background is really interesting.
I'm a RGN but haven't practiced for years now.
I work 11 - 7 in the Emergency Department.
Oct 27th 2006, 11:55 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
so did you do that over here and I take it you did the paper for sociology?
and what area do you work in? sorry for the questions but your background is really interesting.
I'm a RGN but haven't practiced for years now.
and what area do you work in? sorry for the questions but your background is really interesting.
I'm a RGN but haven't practiced for years now.
Some hospitals here offer a 10.000 sign on bonus.
Oct 27th 2006, 12:00 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by BrigieDarling
I went back to school 3 years ago. I was an SEN in the UK but just took everything over... I graduated in May.
I work 11 - 7 in the Emergency Department.
I work 11 - 7 in the Emergency Department.
also congrats in your recent graduation
If that's 11pm - 7am sure is interesting cases usually but very hard on you physically.
Oct 27th 2006, 3:18 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
congrats going back to school I just couldn't my studying days are over (it just seems so different here re nursing and the terminology is different).
also congrats in your recent graduation
If that's 11pm - 7am sure is interesting cases usually but very hard on you physically.
also congrats in your recent graduation
If that's 11pm - 7am sure is interesting cases usually but very hard on you physically.
The usual drunks and hookers roll in around 2am... then there's the bar fight guys that had "I can fight anyone becauae I"m drunk and have super powers." syndrome.
There is a heavy police presence and we actually have jail cell. This is monitored with a camera... If we could show them what they looked like on a better day they would litterally want to curl up and I die. Or at least I would.
What amazes me is the number of pregnant teens that come in with their mothers expecting to find appendicitis. A new Ultrasound we have has colour depicting bleeding areas etc... one person asked me if they were goldfish!
The terminology isn't that hard to get a grasp of, just think of it as newer info. You'll soon replace Osteo with Ortho etc... You would have to take an inservice on equipment like IV pumps etc because they change all the time anyway... Pre-packaged Heparin flushes etc make it a lot easier too.
You will undoubtedly find British Nurses too. There are four that I know of in our Med Ctr. As an RGN you'll be hired before you know it.
Oct 27th 2006, 3:33 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by BrigieDarling
The usual drunks and hookers roll in around 2am... then there's the bar fight guys that had "I can fight anyone becauae I"m drunk and have super powers." syndrome.
There is a heavy police presence and we actually have jail cell. This is monitored with a camera... If we could show them what they looked like on a better day they would litterally want to curl up and I die. Or at least I would.
What amazes me is the number of pregnant teens that come in with their mothers expecting to find appendicitis. A new Ultrasound we have has colour depicting bleeding areas etc... one person asked me if they were goldfish!
The terminology isn't that hard to get a grasp of, just think of it as newer info. You'll soon replace Osteo with Ortho etc... You would have to take an inservice on equipment like IV pumps etc because they change all the time anyway... Pre-packaged Heparin flushes etc make it a lot easier too.
You will undoubtedly find British Nurses too. There are four that I know of in our Med Ctr. As an RGN you'll be hired before you know it.
There is a heavy police presence and we actually have jail cell. This is monitored with a camera... If we could show them what they looked like on a better day they would litterally want to curl up and I die. Or at least I would.
What amazes me is the number of pregnant teens that come in with their mothers expecting to find appendicitis. A new Ultrasound we have has colour depicting bleeding areas etc... one person asked me if they were goldfish!
The terminology isn't that hard to get a grasp of, just think of it as newer info. You'll soon replace Osteo with Ortho etc... You would have to take an inservice on equipment like IV pumps etc because they change all the time anyway... Pre-packaged Heparin flushes etc make it a lot easier too.
You will undoubtedly find British Nurses too. There are four that I know of in our Med Ctr. As an RGN you'll be hired before you know it.
Oct 27th 2006, 3:37 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
My local hospital has at least 2 jail cells...it was strange to see two armed cops standing outside the cell door in the ER.
Restraints laws have changed a lot too. You can't just sedate someone any more.
Oct 27th 2006, 5:00 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
I hate that FGM was ever called "circumcision". *puke* It's FGM - Female Genital Mutilation. I hope that "father" gets all that's coming to him. I couldn't honestly imagine doing that to a 2-year old little girl. *cry* 
Oct 27th 2006, 6:43 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
Originally Posted by BrigieDarling
Don't know what we'd do without either of them...
Restraints laws have changed a lot too. You can't just sedate someone any more.
Restraints laws have changed a lot too. You can't just sedate someone any more.
It's not just the terminology it's 'sue' city here and I have been out of it for over 7 yrs now (I even had to stop and think of the name of the broken cheekbone
)
Oct 27th 2006, 7:18 pm
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
[Quote=Ozzidoc]
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone. [Quote=Ozzidoc]
While the lecturer was trying to be PC (she couldn't get it into her head that some people do actually seek to do things to their bits - like piercings and labia-plasty (big in the porn world apparantly) ), she was adament that people who call themselves Christians also do FGM/female circumcision.
I would imagine that this is because FGM is not a religious thing, it's cultural, and most religions can be found anywhere......so the people having it done are firstly villagers from wherever and then secondly follow (insert chosen religion here).
The lecturer was explaining that some muslim clerics say that it's in the Koran, but that it is not actually written there, that it seems to be some peoples interpretation. Apparantly the Koran specifies something like "thou shalt not alter what allah has given you", which obviously goes against FGM.
It truely is sad that little ones are being put thru this practice
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone. [Quote=Ozzidoc]
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
Isn't it was 
As I don't remember reading about many christians getting it done now.
Or is your lecturer very PC
As I don't remember reading about many christians getting it done now.Or is your lecturer very PC
I would imagine that this is because FGM is not a religious thing, it's cultural, and most religions can be found anywhere......so the people having it done are firstly villagers from wherever and then secondly follow (insert chosen religion here).
The lecturer was explaining that some muslim clerics say that it's in the Koran, but that it is not actually written there, that it seems to be some peoples interpretation. Apparantly the Koran specifies something like "thou shalt not alter what allah has given you", which obviously goes against FGM.
It truely is sad that little ones are being put thru this practice
Oct 28th 2006, 2:39 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
[QUOTE=Ozzidoc][Quote=Ozzidoc]
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
The lecturer was explaining that some muslim clerics say that it's in the Koran, but that it is not actually written there, that it seems to be some peoples interpretation. Apparantly the Koran specifies something like "thou shalt not alter what allah has given you", which obviously goes against FGM.
Odd/ironic how that quote is in the Koran about not altering what 'Allah has given you' and all the males are circumcised........
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
The lecturer was explaining that some muslim clerics say that it's in the Koran, but that it is not actually written there, that it seems to be some peoples interpretation. Apparantly the Koran specifies something like "thou shalt not alter what allah has given you", which obviously goes against FGM.
Oct 28th 2006, 2:57 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
[QUOTE=Ozzidoc][Quote=Ozzidoc]
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
While the lecturer was trying to be PC (she couldn't get it into her head that some people do actually seek to do things to their bits - like piercings and labia-plasty (big in the porn world apparantly) ), she was adament that people who call themselves Christians also do FGM/female circumcision.
I would imagine that this is because FGM is not a religious thing, it's cultural, and most religions can be found anywhere......so the people having it done are firstly villagers from wherever and then secondly follow (insert chosen religion here).
The lecturer was explaining that some muslim clerics say that it's in the Koran, but that it is not actually written there, that it seems to be some peoples interpretation. Apparantly the Koran specifies something like "thou shalt not alter what allah has given you", which obviously goes against FGM.
It truely is sad that little ones are being put thru this practice
As a mother of 4 daughters I cannot imagine ever seeking to do this to your child, makes me want to cry 
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
While the lecturer was trying to be PC (she couldn't get it into her head that some people do actually seek to do things to their bits - like piercings and labia-plasty (big in the porn world apparantly) ), she was adament that people who call themselves Christians also do FGM/female circumcision.
I would imagine that this is because FGM is not a religious thing, it's cultural, and most religions can be found anywhere......so the people having it done are firstly villagers from wherever and then secondly follow (insert chosen religion here).
The lecturer was explaining that some muslim clerics say that it's in the Koran, but that it is not actually written there, that it seems to be some peoples interpretation. Apparantly the Koran specifies something like "thou shalt not alter what allah has given you", which obviously goes against FGM.
It truely is sad that little ones are being put thru this practice
Oct 28th 2006, 2:58 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
[QUOTE=Englishmum][QUOTE=Ozzidoc]
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
Odd/ironic how that quote is in the Koran about not altering what 'Allah has given you' and all the males are circumcised........
Indeed!
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
Odd/ironic how that quote is in the Koran about not altering what 'Allah has given you' and all the males are circumcised........
Indeed!
Oct 28th 2006, 6:01 am
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Re: Female circumcision trial may be first in U.S.
[QUOTE=robskatie][QUOTE=Ozzidoc]
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
As a mother of 4 daughters I cannot imagine ever seeking to do this to your child, makes me want to cry
I would agree with that...what kind of mother would do that.
But, what choice do they have? If they don't do it, her daughters will never be able to find a husband, thus they'll be outcasts and destined to die...
It's a hard hard choice...or rather, it's no choice. These women just try to make the best of a bad situation.
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
It is practiced by athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, cant remember who else but ie everyone.
As a mother of 4 daughters I cannot imagine ever seeking to do this to your child, makes me want to cry
But, what choice do they have? If they don't do it, her daughters will never be able to find a husband, thus they'll be outcasts and destined to die...
It's a hard hard choice...or rather, it's no choice. These women just try to make the best of a bad situation.
