Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
#16
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
I have a few contacts in the newish Jaguar development center in Portland, there is also Daimler and Audi in the area. I am not sure what your skills are but it may be worth reaching out to those companies. I know Jaguar moved here due to proximity of Intel. There are also a couple of Truck manufacturers around the Portland area.
Could you use your skills in the aviation industry, because we have Boeing, but there are also quite a number of smaller aircraft manufacturers/ designers.
Good luck with the job hunting. The job market is tough at the moment with a lot of companies having hiring freezes. I am not sure if the UK market is any different.
Could you use your skills in the aviation industry, because we have Boeing, but there are also quite a number of smaller aircraft manufacturers/ designers.
Good luck with the job hunting. The job market is tough at the moment with a lot of companies having hiring freezes. I am not sure if the UK market is any different.
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Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Have you considered contracting to get your foot in the door somewhere ?
Not sure if your industry does much in the contracting space though but it might be worth investigating.
Back in the day (25 years ago now) I couldn't get anyone interested in offering me a job via direct applying due to a lack of degree. There were plenty that would take me on as a contractor though and then invariably they would like my work and offer a permanent position.
Also if you haven't done already, put your resume on GlassDoor. It's also a good resource for company salaries, reviews and interview questions that get asked.
Not sure if your industry does much in the contracting space though but it might be worth investigating.
Back in the day (25 years ago now) I couldn't get anyone interested in offering me a job via direct applying due to a lack of degree. There were plenty that would take me on as a contractor though and then invariably they would like my work and offer a permanent position.
Also if you haven't done already, put your resume on GlassDoor. It's also a good resource for company salaries, reviews and interview questions that get asked.
#18
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
You shouldn't be asked in the interview about your immigration status unless it's a government job or government contract that mandates US citizenship.
However, you could be asked about your ability to legally work.
#19
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Or perhaps exclude it altogether? Make sure you have a US address and phone on it.
You shouldn't be asked in the interview about your immigration status unless it's a government job or government contract that mandates US citizenship.
However, you could be asked about your ability to legally work.
You shouldn't be asked in the interview about your immigration status unless it's a government job or government contract that mandates US citizenship.
However, you could be asked about your ability to legally work.
Anything that hints that you aren't a regular Joe looking for a job should be avoided. You may be asked at an interview about your employability, but and mention of visas, sponsorship, and status is likely to see your application filtered out before the hiring manager gets to even see it.
#21
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Agreed x2.
Anything that hints that you aren't a regular Joe looking for a job should be avoided. You may be asked at an interview about your employability, but and mention of visas, sponsorship, and status is likely to see your application filtered out before the hiring manager gets to even see it.
Anything that hints that you aren't a regular Joe looking for a job should be avoided. You may be asked at an interview about your employability, but and mention of visas, sponsorship, and status is likely to see your application filtered out before the hiring manager gets to even see it.
#22
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
I have been asked about employability due to me resume mentioning UK companies and UK schools. I don't mention LPR on my resume anymore. It may be obvious if you are from overseas. In this case it may be worth mentioning that you are legally allowed to work in the US as mentioned in #14. If your resume does not give away your nationality, leave that bit out until interview.
The jobs at Jaguar were not well advertised, maybe because the hiring manager/ HR person was English and was not fully aware of options available for advertising positions. It's surprising how many jobs are listed on Craigslist , even at fairly senior levels.
The jobs at Jaguar were not well advertised, maybe because the hiring manager/ HR person was English and was not fully aware of options available for advertising positions. It's surprising how many jobs are listed on Craigslist , even at fairly senior levels.
#23
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Also housing is very cheap in Detroit and there is plenty of water unlike California. There are some nice places like Ann Arbor and good schools aswell List of public Ivy Schools & Colleges . Michigan gives grants for kids to attend college, comes out of Federal Welfare money.
I think Detroit has potential to make you a lot of money.
I think Detroit has potential to make you a lot of money.
#24
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Hey Harvey (suits fans unite!)
I know exactly the pain you're going through - I have an extremely niche skill set and have found it a nightmare to get my resume read despite having tons of experience and a senior background at a major UK firm.
I recently got advised to consult and contact headhunters and within a few weeks of taking this approach - its already paying off. big time.
One of these headhunters is actually British who knows exactly our pain and put alot of my concerns to rest (including a gap in work due to green card issues.etc).
I know exactly the pain you're going through - I have an extremely niche skill set and have found it a nightmare to get my resume read despite having tons of experience and a senior background at a major UK firm.
I recently got advised to consult and contact headhunters and within a few weeks of taking this approach - its already paying off. big time.
One of these headhunters is actually British who knows exactly our pain and put alot of my concerns to rest (including a gap in work due to green card issues.etc).
#25
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
It's not always bad, a lot of it is luck. I moved here in 2008 after being laid off in the UK a few months earlier. It took me 3 days to get a job. A lot is just timing and luck. There were maybe 2 or 3 jobs at that time being advertised. I did have a 2 hour commute each way for a while , which really sucked. I see maybe 1 or 2 jobs a year that are in my field.
#26
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Sorry to hear your predicament. Here are a couple of ideas that come to mind.
Consider speaking to a US friend or family friend and doing a full on mock interview to see what it is that may or may not be the issue? Someone with a HR/ managerial background would be even better.
The second idea is to explore Higher education jobs with your background, maybe research, contract, temp work. I believe Higher ed is generally speaking more forgiving and used to dealing with International qualifications and experience..
Consider speaking to a US friend or family friend and doing a full on mock interview to see what it is that may or may not be the issue? Someone with a HR/ managerial background would be even better.
The second idea is to explore Higher education jobs with your background, maybe research, contract, temp work. I believe Higher ed is generally speaking more forgiving and used to dealing with International qualifications and experience..
#27
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
As a So. CA resident I would move to MI in a heartbeat. Beautiful state, its not all Detroit and even then its not that bad. We have the same 'war zones' that everyone knows to avoid here in So CA.
#28
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Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Do you live near a university that offers classes in anything remotely comnected to your industry? Perhaps you could take a class or two, which might lead to some useful industry contacts as you could then apply for internships = foot in the door. Sounds like you just need to get yourself/ your skills in front of someone who recognizes what they're looking at, without the distraction of the non-standard work history.
I have a few contacts in the newish Jaguar development center in Portland, there is also Daimler and Audi in the area. I am not sure what your skills are but it may be worth reaching out to those companies. I know Jaguar moved here due to proximity of Intel. There are also a couple of Truck manufacturers around the Portland area.
Could you use your skills in the aviation industry, because we have Boeing, but there are also quite a number of smaller aircraft manufacturers/ designers.
Good luck with the job hunting. The job market is tough at the moment with a lot of companies having hiring freezes. I am not sure if the UK market is any different.
Could you use your skills in the aviation industry, because we have Boeing, but there are also quite a number of smaller aircraft manufacturers/ designers.
Good luck with the job hunting. The job market is tough at the moment with a lot of companies having hiring freezes. I am not sure if the UK market is any different.
Have you considered contracting to get your foot in the door somewhere ?
Not sure if your industry does much in the contracting space though but it might be worth investigating.
Back in the day (25 years ago now) I couldn't get anyone interested in offering me a job via direct applying due to a lack of degree. There were plenty that would take me on as a contractor though and then invariably they would like my work and offer a permanent position.
Also if you haven't done already, put your resume on GlassDoor. It's also a good resource for company salaries, reviews and interview questions that get asked.
Not sure if your industry does much in the contracting space though but it might be worth investigating.
Back in the day (25 years ago now) I couldn't get anyone interested in offering me a job via direct applying due to a lack of degree. There were plenty that would take me on as a contractor though and then invariably they would like my work and offer a permanent position.
Also if you haven't done already, put your resume on GlassDoor. It's also a good resource for company salaries, reviews and interview questions that get asked.
Or perhaps exclude it altogether? Make sure you have a US address and phone on it.
You shouldn't be asked in the interview about your immigration status unless it's a government job or government contract that mandates US citizenship.
However, you could be asked about your ability to legally work.
You shouldn't be asked in the interview about your immigration status unless it's a government job or government contract that mandates US citizenship.
However, you could be asked about your ability to legally work.
Agreed x2.
Anything that hints that you aren't a regular Joe looking for a job should be avoided. You may be asked at an interview about your employability, but and mention of visas, sponsorship, and status is likely to see your application filtered out before the hiring manager gets to even see it.
Anything that hints that you aren't a regular Joe looking for a job should be avoided. You may be asked at an interview about your employability, but and mention of visas, sponsorship, and status is likely to see your application filtered out before the hiring manager gets to even see it.
I'm guessing he's facing the 'legally able to work' topic head on in the resume because his resume shows nothing but UK experience, which could reasonably be interpreted to suggest he's a Brit, which then brings up the status question. A resume full of UK experience and no mention of status could backfire perhaps? But the suggestion above of simply stating 'legally able to work in US' or similar should be good enough.
Also housing is very cheap in Detroit and there is plenty of water unlike California. There are some nice places like Ann Arbor and good schools aswell List of public Ivy Schools & Colleges . Michigan gives grants for kids to attend college, comes out of Federal Welfare money.
I think Detroit has potential to make you a lot of money.
I think Detroit has potential to make you a lot of money.
Hey Harvey (suits fans unite!)
I know exactly the pain you're going through - I have an extremely niche skill set and have found it a nightmare to get my resume read despite having tons of experience and a senior background at a major UK firm.
I recently got advised to consult and contact headhunters and within a few weeks of taking this approach - its already paying off. big time.
One of these headhunters is actually British who knows exactly our pain and put alot of my concerns to rest (including a gap in work due to green card issues.etc).
I know exactly the pain you're going through - I have an extremely niche skill set and have found it a nightmare to get my resume read despite having tons of experience and a senior background at a major UK firm.
I recently got advised to consult and contact headhunters and within a few weeks of taking this approach - its already paying off. big time.
One of these headhunters is actually British who knows exactly our pain and put alot of my concerns to rest (including a gap in work due to green card issues.etc).
It's not always bad, a lot of it is luck. I moved here in 2008 after being laid off in the UK a few months earlier. It took me 3 days to get a job. A lot is just timing and luck. There were maybe 2 or 3 jobs at that time being advertised. I did have a 2 hour commute each way for a while , which really sucked. I see maybe 1 or 2 jobs a year that are in my field.
Sorry to hear your predicament. Here are a couple of ideas that come to mind.
Consider speaking to a US friend or family friend and doing a full on mock interview to see what it is that may or may not be the issue? Someone with a HR/ managerial background would be even better.
The second idea is to explore Higher education jobs with your background, maybe research, contract, temp work. I believe Higher ed is generally speaking more forgiving and used to dealing with International qualifications and experience..
Consider speaking to a US friend or family friend and doing a full on mock interview to see what it is that may or may not be the issue? Someone with a HR/ managerial background would be even better.
The second idea is to explore Higher education jobs with your background, maybe research, contract, temp work. I believe Higher ed is generally speaking more forgiving and used to dealing with International qualifications and experience..
In summary: Thank you all for your efforts so far. I have spent 2 hours on linkedin this morning polishing up my profile and have connected to about 10 recruiters in areas where there are jobs for me. I am now going to do my daily job hunting grind and also look up the Jaguar Development Center in Portland. Thanks all.
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Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
I've met a few sad types who f'd up their entire careers just to live here. God knows why. In a couple cases they remained relentlessly upbeat about the land of opportunity etc. I've even seen a few posts on this forum of that nature. Guess it depends what you find important in life.
#30
Re: Feeling defeated, anyone given up and moved 'Home'?
Thank you, the one problem with that is interviews for me tend to be on a very technical level and I don't know anyone with the experience to conduct such an idea, I'll give it some thought.
It's likely not the technical part that is the issue in your interviews. Clearly I don't know you and have not met you but those who do may feel comfortable providing feedback on the soft skill set items of an interview that may need a little polishing or alteration to be successful. How best to illustrate what I mean...well this article touches upon some of the issues, it is oft joked about but is so very true that we speak a common language but that doesn't equal a common culture...
https://hbr.org/2013/04/common-language-doesnt-equal-c
My own experience caused me to analyze and realize that my speech and emails which I thought were being incredibly polite and deferential were actually being interpreted by some of my American colleagues as indecisive and somewhat passive aggressive...
It's likely not the technical part that is the issue in your interviews. Clearly I don't know you and have not met you but those who do may feel comfortable providing feedback on the soft skill set items of an interview that may need a little polishing or alteration to be successful. How best to illustrate what I mean...well this article touches upon some of the issues, it is oft joked about but is so very true that we speak a common language but that doesn't equal a common culture...
https://hbr.org/2013/04/common-language-doesnt-equal-c
My own experience caused me to analyze and realize that my speech and emails which I thought were being incredibly polite and deferential were actually being interpreted by some of my American colleagues as indecisive and somewhat passive aggressive...