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tony126 Mar 5th 2007 6:23 pm

FDA--Ignoring advice?
 
Interesting article. very disturbing if what is printed is a true account of events.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...301311_pf.html

farmerwife Mar 5th 2007 6:36 pm

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Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 4485458)
Interesting article. very disturbing if what is printed is a true account of events.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...301311_pf.html

This isn't good ..... big pharmaceutical money wins again... less drugs to treat people when the bugs get resistant.

neil Mar 5th 2007 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by farmerwife (Post 4485516)
This isn't good ..... big pharmaceutical money wins again... less drugs to treat people when the bugs get resistant.

Who needs nature to help with population control when the FDA can do it for you.

fatbrit Mar 5th 2007 10:01 pm

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Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 4485458)
Interesting article. very disturbing if what is printed is a true account of events.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...301311_pf.html

This is what happens, Tony, when big business owns the government.

tony126 Mar 6th 2007 3:17 am

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4486344)
This is what happens, Tony, when big business owns the government.

And it matters not what Government is in power. Principles go out the window when money is being flashed about. I don't care for lobbyists too much either.

fatbrit Mar 6th 2007 3:25 am

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Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 4487124)
And it matters not what Government is in power. Principles go out the window when money is being flashed about. I don't care for lobbyists too much either.

The current one seems particularly adept. So, no Tony, I don't think it helps by smearing all governments and all parties. None are perfect, but some are considerably worse than others.

tony126 Mar 6th 2007 12:37 pm

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4487144)
The current one seems particularly adept. So, no Tony, I don't think it helps by smearing all governments and all parties. None are perfect, but some are considerably worse than others.


Obviously we are going to differ here. There is no differentiation in my view whether some are worse than others. A piece of string is a piece of string, be it one inch long or one mile long.

neil Mar 6th 2007 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 4488512)
Obviously we are going to differ here. There is no differentiation in my view whether some are worse than others. A piece of string is a piece of string, be it one inch long or one mile long.

So there's absolutely no difference between one that may allow legislation that could affect 1000's of lives and one that would only affect 100's. Agreed, on a basic moral level there isn't but on a practical level there's a huge difference.

fatbrit Mar 6th 2007 1:47 pm

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Originally Posted by neil (Post 4488642)
So there's absolutely no difference between one that may allow legislation that could affect 1000's of lives and one that would only affect 100's. Agreed, on a basic moral level there isn't but on a practical level there's a huge difference.

It's the "black and white" view common of the neocon and born-again right. They just can't see the shades of gray between.

snowbunny Mar 6th 2007 1:50 pm

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Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 4488512)
Obviously we are going to differ here. There is no differentiation in my view whether some are worse than others. A piece of string is a piece of string, be it one inch long or one mile long.

Okay.... if all parties are equally bad when it comes to allowing corporations to run the government, then what's the solution?

tony126 Mar 6th 2007 1:58 pm

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4488787)
It's the "black and white" view common of the neocon and born-again right. They just can't see the shades of gray between.

Not the first time I have been labelled thus but I think you are better than that. There is a hint here and correct me if I'm wrong that the Republicans are capable of doing more wrong than Democrats. Unfortunately that is a theme which is prevalent on BE. That is what I interpret your answer to be.
The fact that I try to live upto my principles is being rediculed and that only proves my point because my thinking does not fall in line with yours and I am classified a neocon and born again right. Let me say for the first time on BE you could not be more wrong if you tried and that is meant for a few others as well.

neil Mar 6th 2007 1:59 pm

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4488787)
It's the "black and white" view common of the neocon and born-again right. They just can't see the shades of gray between.

Maybe it's the "if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right" attitude. If you're going to do something why only do it a little bit.

snowbunny Mar 6th 2007 2:01 pm

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Originally Posted by neil (Post 4488813)
Maybe it's the "if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right" attitude. If you're going to do something why only do it a little bit.

To see if it works?

neil Mar 6th 2007 2:04 pm

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Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 4488812)
Not the first time I have been labelled thus but I think you are better than that. There is a hint here and correct me if I'm wrong that the Republicans are capable of doing more wrong than Democrats. Unfortunately that is a theme which is prevalent on BE. That is what I interpret your answer to be.
The fact that I try to live upto my principles is being rediculed and that only proves my point because my thinking does not fall in line with yours and I am classified a neocon and born again right. Let me say for the first time on BE you could not be more wrong if you tried and that is meant for a few others as well.

I think it's more a case of historically the right is more likely to try to please big business than the left (in any country). Technically the US does not have a political party truly on the left so therefore they are both bad in this regard, just one worse than the other.

neil Mar 6th 2007 2:05 pm

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Originally Posted by snowbunny (Post 4488816)
To see if it works?

Exactly, everyone knows that in a true experiment you get a better idea of the consequences the larger the sample size, so why bother with smaller samples.


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