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Old Jul 31st 2005, 4:31 am
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I've read all the blurb thats says I have to pay taxes on the difference between the amount I bought them for and the amount I sold them for However things get confusing.


If the original offering was say $10 (with 15% off) then over 6months I paid in enough to by 100 shares at this price... then when I bought the shares I paid 8.50 for them whilst the price at that point (fair market value) was $20/share. On what do I pay WHAT taxes?

I confused... and kinda scared because I don't know what I'm gonna owe and I don't want to get into a pickle I can't afford.

thanks

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Old Aug 14th 2005, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by USBound
I've read all the blurb thats says I have to pay taxes on the difference between the amount I bought them for and the amount I sold them for However things get confusing.


If the original offering was say $10 (with 15% off) then over 6months I paid in enough to by 100 shares at this price... then when I bought the shares I paid 8.50 for them whilst the price at that point (fair market value) was $20/share. On what do I pay WHAT taxes?

I confused... and kinda scared because I don't know what I'm gonna owe and I don't want to get into a pickle I can't afford.

thanks

andy

I guess no one else has an espp then?
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Old Aug 14th 2005, 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by USBound
I guess no one else has an espp then?
Don't even know what it means....buy the latest Taxes for Dummies
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Old Aug 15th 2005, 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by ukemigrant
Don't even know what it means....buy the latest Taxes for Dummies
espp = employee stock purchase plan.

you pay into a fund where you get the price of the stock at the lowest point over the 6months you're in the plan. At the point of buying you get 15% off that price.

Its a 15% short term savings plan thats currently performing at roughly 140% for me... which is nice.

For those who want to know.. the details are

normal income tax for the difference between stock price and bought price
capital gains for the difference between bought price and sold price.
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espp = employee stock purchase plan.

you pay into a fund where you get the price of the stock at the lowest point over the 6months you're in the plan. At the point of buying you get 15% off that price.

Its a 15% short term savings plan thats currently performing at roughly 140% for me... which is nice.

For those who want to know.. the details are

normal income tax for the difference between stock price and bought price
capital gains for the difference between bought price and sold price.
I have that at my work - not currently contributing though. So if you re-invest the profit you make from stock sales back into your plan as further stock purchases, so you don't actually get any physical cash in hand, you'll still see a tax increase for the next tax year?

I was afraid of that.
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Default Re: ESPP & Tax advice

Originally Posted by USBound
I've read all the blurb thats says I have to pay taxes on the difference between the amount I bought them for and the amount I sold them for However things get confusing.


If the original offering was say $10 (with 15% off) then over 6months I paid in enough to by 100 shares at this price... then when I bought the shares I paid 8.50 for them whilst the price at that point (fair market value) was $20/share. On what do I pay WHAT taxes?

I confused... and kinda scared because I don't know what I'm gonna owe and I don't want to get into a pickle I can't afford.

thanks

andy

You pay gains when you sell thell them

So if you have sold them . . you will pay on the gain $20.00 - $8.50=$11.50

Only when you sell them
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Originally Posted by Marmitemaniac
You pay gains when you sell thell them

So if you have sold them . . you will pay on the gain $20.00 - $8.50=$11.50

Only when you sell them

Not quite ... this is what I needed to check.

you pay the difference between purchase price on the day ($20 - $8.50) in standard income tax, no way around it, no cooloff period.

If however, between me buying the shares and selling them, the price went up to say $25 then I'd pay capital gains on the $5 difference per share, similarly I'd received capital loss if the price went down.

I had this confirmed on the phone with the IRS today.
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Originally Posted by ukemigrant
I have that at my work - not currently contributing though. So if you re-invest the profit you make from stock sales back into your plan as further stock purchases, so you don't actually get any physical cash in hand, you'll still see a tax increase for the next tax year?

I was afraid of that.

what possible benefit is it to sell and then buy again the same stock?... unless of course in the interim (whilst you HAD cash in hand) the stock went down.
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Originally Posted by USBound
what possible benefit is it to sell and then buy again the same stock?... unless of course in the interim (whilst you HAD cash in hand) the stock went down.
Well you answered your own question there, but I came across your response while browsing and thought it only polite to answer.

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