English Expat shot dead in Dallas
Mar 29th 2007, 3:14 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
My tuppence.
I don't believe in concealed carry or handguns outside of using them at shooting ranges. I know that many of you own handguns and use them responsibly, but if I had to /were allowed to vote, I would vote to ban concealed carry. Visible carry? Would have to think harder on that one. But probably a complete ban, also on semi- and automatic weapons.
I believe that allowing shotguns and rifles preserves the spirit of the Second Amendment and allows for hunting. I would not hunt myself but I do know that some people do need the meat and that a lot of it, at least here, is donated to the poor. I also know that we have an overabundance of deer who will starve and eat entire forests if not checked.
The only person I feel I could not be friends with would be a gun owner in a home with small children, unless that person followed advice and kept guns locked separate from locked ammunition. I could not allow my child to visit that house because I would not consider it safe. I do not see that it is possible to keep guns and ammo locked separately, AND use the gun for defence.... but for hunting, yes.
I grew up with shotguns everywhere and my grandfather hunted for survival during periods of his life. My father and brother have hunted. But I do not feel comfortable around handguns. I've been in several situations where they were not used properly and the thoughts still terrify me.
This is my honest opinion and I share it knowing it may not be popular. I would rather see a shotgun hanging in the back of a pickup cab than some idiot SUV driver with a pistol in the glovebox.
I don't believe in concealed carry or handguns outside of using them at shooting ranges. I know that many of you own handguns and use them responsibly, but if I had to /were allowed to vote, I would vote to ban concealed carry. Visible carry? Would have to think harder on that one. But probably a complete ban, also on semi- and automatic weapons.
I believe that allowing shotguns and rifles preserves the spirit of the Second Amendment and allows for hunting. I would not hunt myself but I do know that some people do need the meat and that a lot of it, at least here, is donated to the poor. I also know that we have an overabundance of deer who will starve and eat entire forests if not checked.
The only person I feel I could not be friends with would be a gun owner in a home with small children, unless that person followed advice and kept guns locked separate from locked ammunition. I could not allow my child to visit that house because I would not consider it safe. I do not see that it is possible to keep guns and ammo locked separately, AND use the gun for defence.... but for hunting, yes.
I grew up with shotguns everywhere and my grandfather hunted for survival during periods of his life. My father and brother have hunted. But I do not feel comfortable around handguns. I've been in several situations where they were not used properly and the thoughts still terrify me.
This is my honest opinion and I share it knowing it may not be popular. I would rather see a shotgun hanging in the back of a pickup cab than some idiot SUV driver with a pistol in the glovebox.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:15 am
#62
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
You won't like me then. I am lethal with a golf club. A couple of years ago in the previous town I lived in, a couple of teen thugs were breaking into my daughter's car in the middle of the night. I grabbed my gown, yelled at my hubs and daughter and raced downstairs. Just so happened my beloved's Pings were waiting by the front door for his morning game. I grabbed the driver and raced outside and pursued the punters. I believe I was quite a sight racing down the road waving said driver in a decisively threatening manner with my dressing gown billowing behind me showing off rather shorty pj's. Young men running hell for leather down the road and me making a huge ruckus.
Daughter horrified at Mum flashing some bits to the neighbourhood in my pursuit, and hubs horrified that I was prepared to destroy his Ping driver on wayward youth!! 
Good news is, they didn't get away with a thing, and one of them was decidely scared of facing me when we headed to court. I made such a good impression........
Daughter horrified at Mum flashing some bits to the neighbourhood in my pursuit, and hubs horrified that I was prepared to destroy his Ping driver on wayward youth!! Good news is, they didn't get away with a thing, and one of them was decidely scared of facing me when we headed to court. I made such a good impression........
Mar 29th 2007, 3:17 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
You won't like me then. I am lethal with a golf club. A couple of years ago in the previous town I lived in, a couple of teen thugs were breaking into my daughter's car in the middle of the night. I grabbed my gown, yelled at my hubs and daughter and raced downstairs. Just so happened my beloved's Pings were waiting by the front door for his morning game. I grabbed the driver and raced outside and pursued the punters. I believe I was quite a sight racing down the road waving said driver in a decisively threatening manner with my dressing gown billowing behind me showing off rather shorty pj's. Young men running hell for leather down the road and me making a huge ruckus. Daughter horrified at Mum flashing some bits to the neighbourhood in my pursuit, and hubs horrified that I was prepared to destroy his Ping driver on wayward youth!! Good news is, they didn't get away with a thing, and one of them was decidely scared of facing me when we headed to court. I made such a good impression........
Daughter horrified at Mum flashing some bits to the neighbourhood in my pursuit, and hubs horrified that I was prepared to destroy his Ping driver on wayward youth!! Good news is, they didn't get away with a thing, and one of them was decidely scared of facing me when we headed to court. I made such a good impression........
Mar 29th 2007, 3:17 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
Got no problems with golf clubs or baseball bats or hammers used in self-defence or for their intended purpose. You must be within really close distance to use them and that makes a difference.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:19 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
I'd love to see a 120lb woman fend of a 220lb rapist with a baseball bat, I really would, but a good result isn't going to be the norm.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:19 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
My tuppence.
I don't believe in concealed carry or handguns outside of using them at shooting ranges. I know that many of you own handguns and use them responsibly, but if I had to /were allowed to vote, I would vote to ban concealed carry. Visible carry? Would have to think harder on that one. But probably a complete ban, also on semi- and automatic weapons.
I believe that allowing shotguns and rifles preserves the spirit of the Second Amendment and allows for hunting. I would not hunt myself but I do know that some people do need the meat and that a lot of it, at least here, is donated to the poor. I also know that we have an overabundance of deer who will starve and eat entire forests if not checked.
The only person I feel I could not be friends with would be a gun owner in a home with small children, unless that person followed advice and kept guns locked separate from locked ammunition. I could not allow my child to visit that house because I would not consider it safe. I do not see that it is possible to keep guns and ammo locked separately, AND use the gun for defence.... but for hunting, yes.
I grew up with shotguns everywhere and my grandfather hunted for survival during periods of his life. My father and brother have hunted. But I do not feel comfortable around handguns. I've been in several situations where they were not used properly and the thoughts still terrify me.
This is my honest opinion and I share it knowing it may not be popular. I would rather see a shotgun hanging in the back of a pickup cab than some idiot SUV driver with a pistol in the glovebox.
I don't believe in concealed carry or handguns outside of using them at shooting ranges. I know that many of you own handguns and use them responsibly, but if I had to /were allowed to vote, I would vote to ban concealed carry. Visible carry? Would have to think harder on that one. But probably a complete ban, also on semi- and automatic weapons.
I believe that allowing shotguns and rifles preserves the spirit of the Second Amendment and allows for hunting. I would not hunt myself but I do know that some people do need the meat and that a lot of it, at least here, is donated to the poor. I also know that we have an overabundance of deer who will starve and eat entire forests if not checked.
The only person I feel I could not be friends with would be a gun owner in a home with small children, unless that person followed advice and kept guns locked separate from locked ammunition. I could not allow my child to visit that house because I would not consider it safe. I do not see that it is possible to keep guns and ammo locked separately, AND use the gun for defence.... but for hunting, yes.
I grew up with shotguns everywhere and my grandfather hunted for survival during periods of his life. My father and brother have hunted. But I do not feel comfortable around handguns. I've been in several situations where they were not used properly and the thoughts still terrify me.
This is my honest opinion and I share it knowing it may not be popular. I would rather see a shotgun hanging in the back of a pickup cab than some idiot SUV driver with a pistol in the glovebox.
It's the concept of people walking around with concealed weapons that scares the shit out of me.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:21 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
My tuppence.
The only person I feel I could not be friends with would be a gun owner in a home with small children, unless that person followed advice and kept guns locked separate from locked ammunition. I could not allow my child to visit that house because I would not consider it safe.
The only person I feel I could not be friends with would be a gun owner in a home with small children, unless that person followed advice and kept guns locked separate from locked ammunition. I could not allow my child to visit that house because I would not consider it safe.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:23 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
If you're thinking about "assault weapons", then you've been mislead into thinking a hunting rifle with cosmetic changes is more dangerous than the original hunting rifle. See here for a better explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30
Also, Penn and Teller sometimes tackle serious topics; included in this show is why one woman from Texas supports concealed carry: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...08445846864220
Last edited by anotherlimey; Mar 29th 2007 at 3:32 am.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:25 am
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Mar 29th 2007, 3:26 am
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Mar 29th 2007, 3:30 am
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Re: English Expat shot dead in Dallas
How would you know if those people do in fact carry guns? There is no guarantee that they would reveal that sort of info to you. Most would deny it or sell the obvious responsibility story. The best you can do is teach your kids to leave an environment where kids are talking of playing with guns or are actually handling them. Communication is crucial.
I only have a very few rules and they know I'm serious about this one.
We live in a state that's armed to the teeth so obviously I don't shit myself every time I walk out the door. But I'm uncomfortable around someone whom I do not know well but that I do know is carrying a handgun.
Mar 29th 2007, 3:30 am
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