Employment discrimination
#16
Re: Employment discrimination
For what it's worth, to echo waht others have said, you'll be lucky to find a job from outside of the country. Nigh on impossible to do at the best of times, the odds are even slimmer now.
Complaining will get you absolutely nowhere - don't even consider it, instead concentrate on what else you might do to up your chances once you get here. Research companies, find people's direct email addresses and phone numbers; get contacts.
Complaining will get you absolutely nowhere - don't even consider it, instead concentrate on what else you might do to up your chances once you get here. Research companies, find people's direct email addresses and phone numbers; get contacts.
#17
Re: Employment discrimination
Whether or not this is right is another question altogether; I am merely saying that proving discrimination is almost always a fruitless effort.
#18
Re: Employment discrimination
I disagree with other posters that this is not discrimination. File your complaint at http://www.eeoc.gov/ for the benefit of others and so the company comes to understand it can't do this, then get on with your job search elsewhere.
#19
Re: Employment discrimination
I disagree with other posters that this is not discrimination. File your complaint at http://www.eeoc.gov/ for the benefit of others and so the company understand it can't do this, then get on with your job search elsewhere.
#20
Re: Employment discrimination
And I've seen cases where the EEOC slapped companies very hard. Throw in the complaint -- it doesn't cost you anything.
#21
Re: Employment discrimination
Much as I dislike "The Man" - reality is that the employers really do hold 90% of the cards these days and you never know where you might be applying in future. Sad, but true.
#22
Re: Employment discrimination
The only thing about that is should the OP find himself applying for a position there in future......well, even though it's not legal and shouldn't have any impact....I wouldn't want to be the one who had made a sour grapes complaint on record.
Much as I dislike "The Man" - reality is that the employers really do hold 90% of the cards these days and you never know where you might be applying in future. Sad, but true.
Much as I dislike "The Man" - reality is that the employers really do hold 90% of the cards these days and you never know where you might be applying in future. Sad, but true.
#23
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Re: Employment discrimination
Agreed, in this economic climate it's going to be tough to get any traction without a US address and phone number. Most employers are not going to bother with a non-resident when they likely have a bunch of local people available for interview. The 'phone number can be fudged by using a service like Vonage and getting a US 'phone number, but that's only ggoing to get you so far.
#25
Re: Employment discrimination
Hello!!!
Newbie Brit (soon to be expat) here!
I got my legal resident green card in January 2009 and am planning to immigrate to USA within the next few months.
In the meantime I have been applying for jobs online.
I received an email reply to a job application. This is what I received...
"We are not hiring non US citizens. We have received many qualified US applications for this position and will be hiring from within our region"
I am deeply shocked, upset and offended by this reply.
Has anyone living or planning to live in USA ever had anything like this?
It isn't a federal government job or anything so I am pretty sure its unlawful for this company to discriminate on the grounds of national origin.
I want to make a complaint
Advice anyone?
Newbie Brit (soon to be expat) here!
I got my legal resident green card in January 2009 and am planning to immigrate to USA within the next few months.
In the meantime I have been applying for jobs online.
I received an email reply to a job application. This is what I received...
"We are not hiring non US citizens. We have received many qualified US applications for this position and will be hiring from within our region"
I am deeply shocked, upset and offended by this reply.
Has anyone living or planning to live in USA ever had anything like this?
It isn't a federal government job or anything so I am pretty sure its unlawful for this company to discriminate on the grounds of national origin.
I want to make a complaint
Advice anyone?
The response sounds like the employer does not want to hire candidates who require employment visas.
#26
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Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 12
Re: Employment discrimination
Im not going to get into the discrimination argument but i have recently recieved my temp work permit and ssn as I recently married a USC. I have applied for countless jobs, mainly on line cos that seems to be the way to do it over here ,but have not had one reply due mainly, i think, to the fact they cannot check on previous employment and my qualifications mean next to nothing here. All i can do is keep on going for them untill someone gives me a break, which i think is what you will need to do.
#27
Re: Employment discrimination
Im not going to get into the discrimination argument but i have recently recieved my temp work permit and ssn as I recently married a USC. I have applied for countless jobs, mainly on line cos that seems to be the way to do it over here ,but have not had one reply due mainly, i think, to the fact they cannot check on previous employment and my qualifications mean next to nothing here.
#28
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,266
Re: Employment discrimination
Hello!!!
Newbie Brit (soon to be expat) here!
I got my legal resident green card in January 2009 and am planning to immigrate to USA within the next few months.
In the meantime I have been applying for jobs online.
I received an email reply to a job application. This is what I received...
"We are not hiring non US citizens. We have received many qualified US applications for this position and will be hiring from within our region"
I am deeply shocked, upset and offended by this reply.
Has anyone living or planning to live in USA ever had anything like this?
It isn't a federal government job or anything so I am pretty sure its unlawful for this company to discriminate on the grounds of national origin.
I want to make a complaint
Advice anyone?
Newbie Brit (soon to be expat) here!
I got my legal resident green card in January 2009 and am planning to immigrate to USA within the next few months.
In the meantime I have been applying for jobs online.
I received an email reply to a job application. This is what I received...
"We are not hiring non US citizens. We have received many qualified US applications for this position and will be hiring from within our region"
I am deeply shocked, upset and offended by this reply.
Has anyone living or planning to live in USA ever had anything like this?
It isn't a federal government job or anything so I am pretty sure its unlawful for this company to discriminate on the grounds of national origin.
I want to make a complaint
Advice anyone?
From your posting, it looks like you came to the US for a short time and then immediately returned abroad. How long did you stay in the US in January? What were your results then?
As a general rule, I am kind of surprised you would get an e-mail like that. With limited exceptions, that is totally illegal. Pretty stupid in my opinion. The 1986 legislation which introduced employer sanctions ALSO introduced a prohibition against discrimination against people based upon alienage -- with limited circumstances.
That said, the individual remedies under the Immigration & Nationality Act are not that strong. And the enforcement people are more interested in preventing "unauthorized" aliens from working these days.
#29
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Re: Employment discrimination
I disagree with other posters that this is not discrimination. File your complaint at http://www.eeoc.gov/ for the benefit of others and so the company comes to understand it can't do this, then get on with your job search elsewhere.
Actually putting on the email, were only hiring US citizens is quite obvious. Ok I agree that there might have been a slight communication problem on the part of the company. Or should I say that I hope it was a case of we all speak the same language but its still foreign. If I got a response like that I would be replying to it with facts that even if it was the case they cant say it, I wouldnt give a rats ass about offending anyone either. You havent got the job so why be polite about it. What they are practicing is totally illegal! grrrr.. and i am amazed that half of you say its not discrimination. bloody amazed! If it had been the race card ie colour then I am sure the outcry would be loud. This is the same thing not colour but nationality!!
#30
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,266
Re: Employment discrimination
I am with u on this. This is blatent discrimination. No ifs and buts about it. What to do about it is another thing. But to try and say this is not discrimination is poop!
Actually putting on the email, were only hiring US citizens is quite obvious. Ok I agree that there might have been a slight communication problem on the part of the company. Or should I say that I hope it was a case of we all speak the same language but its still foreign. If I got a response like that I would be replying to it with facts that even if it was the case they cant say it, I wouldnt give a rats ass about offending anyone either. You havent got the job so why be polite about it. What they are practicing is totally illegal! grrrr.. and i am amazed that half of you say its not discrimination. bloody amazed! If it had been the race card ie colour then I am sure the outcry would be loud. This is the same thing not colour but nationality!!
Actually putting on the email, were only hiring US citizens is quite obvious. Ok I agree that there might have been a slight communication problem on the part of the company. Or should I say that I hope it was a case of we all speak the same language but its still foreign. If I got a response like that I would be replying to it with facts that even if it was the case they cant say it, I wouldnt give a rats ass about offending anyone either. You havent got the job so why be polite about it. What they are practicing is totally illegal! grrrr.. and i am amazed that half of you say its not discrimination. bloody amazed! If it had been the race card ie colour then I am sure the outcry would be loud. This is the same thing not colour but nationality!!
There is alternative to EEOC -- http://www.usdoj.gov/eoir/OcahoMain/...Bcomplaint.htm
The two remedies are mutually exclusive.
BTW, I wonder if OP was clear that he had already immigrated to the US. I can see from his post that it may not have been clear on his application that he had recently immigrated and just returned home for presumably a short time.