AdobePinon

It's not uncommon for someone to get kicked out of a job for lying on their resume years before.

Duncan Roberts

Not really 100% on topic but it was drilled into me when I graduated university. It is illegal for a UK education establishment (school, college, university) to give out your transcripts to anyone but you, even with your permission. They can verify that you passed or failed but not what you took or what grade you got. That is unless the law changed in the last 5 years.

BigDavyG

I've heard of that, but in terms of your previous salary how could they find out ??
Your old employer can't divulge that info as far as i'm aware, is that correct ??

BigDavyG

Yep - as for employers i hear that they can only say you worked there for say 5 years and nothing else - well that's in the UK anyway.

AdobePinon

Above board. Probably not, although I'm not sure.

More likely - find out on the side, fire for unrelated reason.

Big D

There is no way of verifying using credit reference agencies - although employment can be verified by phone, salary not (usual to prove with payslips if ever needed) the tax form could be the unsticker, but as its not PAYE then you dont have to give the P45 equivalent to your new employer (i think!!)

BigDavyG

Its tricky for the person i'm enquiring as they are currently significantly underpaid. So like the monster article stated, if you give them your real current salary you will prob continue to be underpaid.

I always find it strange that the first thing many employers try to do to a new employee is screw them over their salary - its hardly a good way to foster loyalty, etc, is it ??

Kate2112

Though it is the norm in the UK you dont have to give your employer your P45, you can ask them to request a tax code from the relevant tax office. Which means you can be creative with your previous salary to a new employer to get the new salary you want. If they cant afford you or dont want to pay you that much, you may not want the job anyway.

AmerLisa

Yes, I do know that. But here you fill out a new W-2 form everytime. I thought there was something new over here that I hadn't heard about and was probably going to find out later when it was too late.

Bob

blag it, but don't take the piss because when you get hired is when you'll be able to negotiate your best salary and package, so make it a good one, something like around 20% blag on previous wouldn't be a problem, anything more and they'll know your taking the mick...and well, blag is good because your going to get bugger all improvements and decent pay raises once your hired

BigDavyG

That's what I'm telling the person concerned.
As it happens they have asked for a 21% increase on their current salary but also blagged their current salary by a small amount.
It was just that a recent converstaion with a recruiter made them panic a bit. They were basically asked to confirm their current salary stated on the application form as "we don't want and discrepancies to emerge when we run our background checks".
I have to admit it sounds a bit of a strange thing to say to me

Bob

employer is probably blagging it too, hoping to stop people ask for to much

BigDavyG

I tend to agree with you on that one

dunroving

I can't figure out why salary is even relevant - as already said, they should pay you what they think you are worth, not as little as they can get away with. It sounds like in the situation you described, someone at the prospective employer doesn't trust what they say they currently are being paid.

When I interviewed in Scotland for the job I went back for in 2000, the Dean of the Faculty made some smart arsed remark about how with the exchange rate and cheaper cost of living, the salary they were offering would be worth a lot more than my current salary. I wanted to tell him he had no ******* clue what he was talking about but decided not to.

BigDavyG

Yep - its like I said earlier - they want to start a relationship with a new employee by screwing them - great way to do business.

It reminds me about a friend of mine. He was sent to an interview by a recruitment agency. At the interview the head man said "I don't trust people who use agencies - they're just after more money". My friend just looked at him and completely deadpan asked "Well, in the case why did you advertise this position through an agency". He then got up and left saying that he'd found enough out about his potential employeer to be able to make his decision.