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civilservant Sep 17th 2020 4:30 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 
You could say that about anything - what if you need a 16th round? One has to be balanced against the other, and the concealment of the 43 is worth the trade off in capacity IMO.

Pulaski Sep 18th 2020 4:33 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by LegalEagleTX (Post 12911275)
You'll be in my prayers if you ever needed that 8th round.


Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 12911277)
You could say that about anything - what if you need a 16th round? One has to be balanced against the other, and the concealment of the 43 is worth the trade off in capacity IMO.

You might find this guy interesting - I find him to be one of the most useful producers of YouTube videos on firearms topics, and entertaining too. He often discusses the importance of magazine capacity, and the video below includes one such discussion starting at 7:13. The discussion ends just after the 9 minute mark with a highly relevant observation about the possible ramifications of the last bullets in a 10-12+ round volley in a citizen involved shooting.


civilservant Sep 18th 2020 4:39 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 
I agree that, based of the tiny sample that I just watched of his video, he seems very informative. Will have to check his channel out more thoroughly.

AS to his final point - I had not considered that, but it seems eminently reasonable with a little thought. As I said before, if you need more than 6+1, you really need the cops. For your own legal protection as much as anything else.


Pulaski Sep 18th 2020 5:17 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 12911682)
I agree that, based of the tiny sample that I just watched of his video, he seems very informative. Will have to check his channel out more thoroughly.

AS to his final point - I had not considered that, but it seems eminently reasonable with a little thought. As I said before, if you need more than 6+1, you really need the cops. For your own legal protection as much as anything else.

Conversely, if 6+1 isn't enough, you might need to spend more time at the range. :nod:

There are a number of videos of this Sheriff (Grady Judd, of Polk Co, FL - he is a no-nonse guy, and also entertaining to watch in his fairly frequent press conferences - he was the Sheriff covering that recent triple homicide in FL, at night on a back road, near a fishing pond, that hit the national headlines). In the video below he is reporting on a citizen shooting by an Uber driver of an idiot who all but ran the Uber off the road, jumped out of his truck and threatened to shoot the Uber driver. .... One shot was all that was required to get the job done! The dash-cam video starts at 9:10 and only lasts a few seconds.

[Note to moderators this video is NOT graphic - the shooting takes place off-screen.]


LegalEagleTX Sep 18th 2020 5:40 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 
I got a call from the range yesterday to say that my Glock43x had arrived. Went down this morning with my hunting license which also arrived yesterday, my I94, passport and drivers license. They took copies of all these and then I had to enter information into a computer which was then sent off to the Feds for a background check. I was warned that it may come back delayed because I am a non-immigrant alien and sure enough it did. So the Feds now have 3 business days to get back to the range and if they don't I can legally buy the handgun. Not sure if that is the same in all States, but it's the case in Texas. I am not envisaging a problem anyway, but its interesting that the Feds are on the clock to deny a purchase.

civilservant Sep 18th 2020 5:46 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 
It’s the same here in GA.

The first tine I bought a weapon it took the full 3 days, the second time (and since then) has been immediate.

Pulaski Sep 18th 2020 5:46 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by LegalEagleTX (Post 12911702)
.... Went down this morning with my .... passport and drivers license. They took copies of all these and then I had to enter information into a computer which was then sent off to the Feds for a background check. I was warned that it may come back delayed because I am a non-immigrant alien [dual citizen] and sure enough it did. So the Feds now have 3 business days to get back to the range and if they don't I can legally buy the handgun. Not sure if that is the same in all States, but it's the case in Texas. ....

That's pretty much what happened to me and what I was told when I picked up my Mossberg in NC in April - two visits, first to provide documents (I don't have CCP), second to collect weapon a few days later.

LegalEagleTX Sep 18th 2020 6:36 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 
I saw this question when I entered my information on the computer, but didn't think anything of it at the time as it simply didn't apply to me 'Have you ever renounced your U.S. citizenship?'. I looked it up when I got back and interestingly anyone who renounces their U.S. citizenship is banned forever from owning a firearm in the U.S., even if they subsequently naturalize again. I guess the Govt want to make renunciation as difficult as painful as possible.

tht Sep 18th 2020 7:59 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12911691)
Conversely, if 6+1 isn't enough, you might need to spend more time at the range. :nod:

There are a number of videos of this Sheriff (Grady Judd, of Polk Co, FL - he is a no-nonse guy, and also entertaining to watch in his fairly frequent press conferences - he was the Sheriff covering that recent triple homicide in FL, at night on a back road, near a fishing pond, that hit the national headlines). In the video below he is reporting on a citizen shooting by an Uber driver of an idiot who all but ran the Uber off the road, jumped out of his truck and threatened to shoot the Uber driver. .... One shot was all that was required to get the job done! The dash-cam video starts at 9:10 and only lasts a few seconds.

[Note to moderators this video is NOT graphic - the shooting takes place off-screen.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAv9BO2VQQ

this video is how I image any interaction with LE in my town would go down if you had a fire arm, legal or not, I was hoping to avail my 2nd amendment right (as currently interpreted) but alas the constitution is not the “highest authority” in my household.... I even told her I needed it to make sure our generator was not stolen in a storm... I now have a heavy duty chain and motorcycle anchor on my foundation not a Glock 19 :-(

LegalEagleTX Sep 18th 2020 8:28 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12911725)
this video is how I image any interaction with LE in my town would go down if you had a fire arm, legal or not, I was hoping to avail my 2nd amendment right (as currently interpreted) but alas the constitution is not the “highest authority” in my household.... I even told her I needed it to make sure our generator was not stolen in a storm... I now have a heavy duty chain and motorcycle anchor on my foundation not a Glock 19 :-(

If that was LE instead of an Uber driver, that dude would have been taken down in a volley. LE are trained to not stop shooting until the threat is neutralized. But putting aside LE, that is the interaction I would expect if anyone had a handgun in their vehicle. I don't know what that dude was thinking, he clearly had a death wish. Any Grand Jury would no bill that shooting no problem. As the sheriff said, the Uber driver 'did the right thing'.

Pulaski Sep 18th 2020 9:01 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by LegalEagleTX (Post 12911730)
If that was LE instead of an Uber driver, that dude would have been taken down in a volley. LE are trained to not stop shooting until the threat is neutralized. .....

If you watch the video the Uber driver is a new graduate from the police academy, awaiting joining instructions for whichever LE agency is sponsoring him. ... Apparently one bullet was enough, but it would be interesting to know what it was. :unsure:

LegalEagleTX Sep 18th 2020 11:18 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12911735)
If you watch the video the Uber driver is a new graduate from the police academy, awaiting joining instructions for whichever LE agency is sponsoring him. ... Apparently one bullet was enough, but it would be interesting to know what it was. :unsure:

Ohhh, I only scrubbed through the video, I missed that bit. Ha, rookie. A few years on the job and he would have unloaded one clip reaching for another. That's what I would expect from Texas LE, all before the dude reached his back bumper.

tht Sep 19th 2020 8:07 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by LegalEagleTX (Post 12911730)
If that was LE instead of an Uber driver, that dude would have been taken down in a volley. LE are trained to not stop shooting until the threat is neutralized. But putting aside LE, that is the interaction I would expect if anyone had a handgun in their vehicle. I don't know what that dude was thinking, he clearly had a death wish. Any Grand Jury would no bill that shooting no problem. As the sheriff said, the Uber driver 'did the right thing'.

I think you misunderstood my post.. I was not saying LE here would have acted like that to a threat, I am sure they would.

But I meant that’s is how I think LE would react to someone non threateningly openly carrying a firearm in our city. CT is an open carry state, maybe we are “off limits” which could explain why, but I have never seen anyone other than LE in our town openly carry and even when animal control was called to deal with a crazed raccoon, it was actually LE who shot it not animal control.

Once you get out of Fairfield county I think it’s different, maybe the boss will even let me get one now we have had a bear in our yard at our lake house... but I doubt it...

LegalEagleTX Sep 19th 2020 9:15 pm

Re: Emigrating to USA with personal firearms
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12912000)
I have never seen anyone other than LE in our town openly carry.

LTCs are fairly common in Texas, most of our friends have them but I have only ever seen open carry by LE or at the range. I must admit I don't look for it though. A problem with open carry is that there are plenty of restricted places where you aren't allowed to carry, such as bars (i.e., anywhere where more than 51% of revenue is from alcohol), high schools or a place where there is a high school event, certain federal/state property and anywhere where there is a sign stating carrying is not permitted. If you happen to ever stumble on to a restricted place unintentionally, perhaps you were looking at your phone when you entered and missed the sign, and someone sees your weapon, bam!! - class A misdemeanour, possibly a felony and your LTC is revoked never to be reissued and there is no defence.


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