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Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by uk_grenada
(Post 12331116)
Oh yeah, americans arent allowed to make their own sometimes are they? Ie can you buy a plug by itself and just cut the flex, strip the conductors, fit the flex and screw it together as we would do in the uk? ....
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Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by mrken30
(Post 12330541)
I remember those days, I practically gave most of my stuff away. It was nice to get some new tools once in the US, but I wish I had brought more with me.
Like you say we'll end up giving most of it away I'm sure. |
Re: Electric appliances help
We bought a couple of large transformers from amazon for 110V-240V conversion (but they will also do the reverse).
However, we also got a US extension lead and 'added' a UK 4-way 13amp block so that visitors could recharge their iphones (etc)... . We also installed a UK double 13 amp socket with 240V in our kitchen to run a UK kettle (US ones take ages to boil water). The odd thing is that the supply into your US home is actually 240V - your oven & hob, AC unit, water heating element are likely to be running on 240V; for other outlets they split that 240V into 2x120V circuits. (Our hob is from US IKEA and was actually made in the UK and runs on 240V - as is our Bosch AC unit). |
Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by ChrisK
(Post 12331304)
We bought a couple of large transformers from amazon for 110V-240V conversion (but they will also do the reverse).
However, we also got a US extension lead and 'added' a UK 4-way 13amp block so that visitors could recharge their iphones (etc)... . We also installed a UK double 13 amp socket with 240V in our kitchen to run a UK kettle (US ones take ages to boil water). ..... And in any case things like phone chargers run on 100v-250v, so running extension cords all over your house is pointless as well as an insurance issue. .... The odd thing is that the supply into your US home is actually 240V .... |
Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by ChrisK
(Post 12331304)
The odd thing is that the supply into your US home is actually 240V - your oven & hob, AC unit, water heating element are likely to be running on 240V; for other outlets they split that 240V into 2x120V circuits. (Our hob is from US IKEA and was actually made in the UK and runs on 240V - as is our Bosch AC unit).
The significant difference is that a UK appliance, on UK supplies is isolated from the mains when its off switch is off. A UK appliance on US 230V is NOT ISOLATED and presents a permanent hazard to anyone who might poke around in it. |
Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12331308)
And in any case things like phone chargers run on 100v-250v, so running extension cords all over your house is pointless as well as an insurance issue.
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Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by steveq
(Post 12331311)
I think he's made up a UK 13A strip to US 110 plug, for chargers so you don't have to bugger about with a UK/US adapter.
Indeed - (and I don't have extension cords running around the house and never said I did...!). It is purely to save having multiple UK-US converters hanging off the wall (which in itself is not entirely safe!). Transformers - these are only used as needed and never left plugged in while not attended. 240V (/230V) supply - indeed it is 2x120V. I have a earth/current leakage device on the 240V supply to the kettle - and of course, with the UK sockets, these are switched! (unlike the US 'receptacles'). The bottom line of course is to never mess with electricity if you don't know what you're doing (which having had a new house also seems to apply to the electrical contractors!). |
Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by ChrisK
(Post 12331536)
.... The bottom line of course is to never mess with electricity if you don't know what you're doing (which having had a new house also seems to apply to the electrical contractors!).
It wasn't a particularly difficult task to install a suitable cable for an immersion heater connected directly to its own fuse in the fuse box, so I have no idea why that wasn't done in the first place. :unsure: |
Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by ChrisK
(Post 12331536)
240V (/230V) supply - indeed it is 2x120V. I have a earth/current leakage device on the 240V supply to the kettle - and of course, with the UK sockets, these are switched! (unlike the US 'receptacles').
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Re: Electric appliances help
Worst I've seen was a row of double sockets in a kitchen, wired in series, and in 1mm cable, then wired back to where a cooker switch had been, and then the 1mm wires twisted over the 6mm wires, covered in drywall tape or masking tape and then buried in plaster.
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Re: Electric appliances help
I will admit to being amused at the opinions and value judgements often expressed in these discussions comparing the differences between the US and the UK when it comes to electrical and electronic systems.
As previously pointed out, many of the differences are historical in nature and there are issues of backwards compatibility. Consistent with that, the standards keep changing. (Usually for the better, but there have been hiccups - aluminum household wiring anyone?). My understanding of the reason for belt-and-braces to safety in UK plugs and outlets is a combination of voltage and ring circuits. The one thing that really intrigued me was the UK practice for power on construction sites - 110 v!! Construction sites are inherently a jungle of long power cords (Although in both the US and UK, battery power tools are becoming more and more prevelent). So building sites will either have their own generator or a step-down transformer to power the site. |
Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by S Folinsky
(Post 12332518)
The one thing that really intrigued me was the UK practice for power on construction sites - 110 v!! Construction sites are inherently a jungle of long power cords (Although in both the US and UK, battery power tools are becoming more and more prevelent). So building sites will either have their own generator or a step-down transformer to power the site.
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Re: Electric appliances help
Originally Posted by steveq
(Post 12332534)
Usually you provide a "site transformer" which is a biggish, heavy yellow box with the isolating transformer in it. The voltage is 55-0-55, ie, it swings around ground, by a maximum of 77V, as opposed to normal UK mains which is a maximum of 311V
One damn good reason for the UK practice is that it approaches certainty that a carpenter will, at least once, cut his own power cord. :( |
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