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cjekop83 Oct 27th 2007 4:43 pm

DWI on British License
 
Hi,

can any one give me advice. I was arrested and charged with DWI and as an Unlicensed driver whilst on vacation in NJ.

I have a court date for this week but my passport is in DC getting renewed as I am currently traveling and the US was a longer stop so it made sense to renew now before carrying on.

Does any one know the likely out come of the court appearance?

Any help would be great

Duncan Roberts Oct 27th 2007 5:10 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 
If it's legit and depending on how impaired you were. For a first time, probably a hefty fine for the combo plus classes that you pay for and other payments for various things, maybe all in all around $1000 or so. A ban on driving in NJ. If you are unlucky you could be facing a few months of jail time. Does beg the question, what were you thinking? though.

Tracym Oct 27th 2007 7:14 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by cjekop83 (Post 5476140)
Hi,

can any one give me advice. I was arrested and charged with DWI and as an Unlicensed driver whilst on vacation in NJ.

I have a court date for this week but my passport is in DC getting renewed as I am currently traveling and the US was a longer stop so it made sense to renew now before carrying on.

Does any one know the likely out come of the court appearance?

Any help would be great

Could depend how over the limit you were. And I'm wondering - didn't you have UK license? so why "unlicensed driver"?

You might consider an attorney, we have attorneys that specialize in DUI.

Manc Oct 28th 2007 1:25 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by cjekop83 (Post 5476140)
Hi,

can any one give me advice. I was arrested and charged with DWI and as an Unlicensed driver whilst on vacation in NJ.

I have a court date for this week but my passport is in DC getting renewed as I am currently traveling and the US was a longer stop so it made sense to renew now before carrying on.

Does any one know the likely out come of the court appearance?

Any help would be great

I didn't think you could renew your passport in Washington unless you were a resident here.

Patrick Hasler Oct 28th 2007 4:05 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 5478895)
I didn't think you could renew your passport in Washington unless you were a resident here.

I renewed mine before I became a legal resident :)

lapin_windstar Oct 29th 2007 12:47 am

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 5478895)
I didn't think you could renew your passport in Washington unless you were a resident here.

It doesn't explicitly say that here: http://www.britainusa.com/sections/a...=41001&a=25302
IMO (and that's not necessarily relevant), it's none of the UK government's business what my immigration status is here.

"didn't you have UK license? so why "unlicensed driver"?"

Maybe he'd been a resident of NJ long enough that he was supposed to have an NJ one? Or didn't have the card with him? Or a thick cop?

Thydney Oct 29th 2007 1:08 am

Re: DWI on British License
 
Sorry but I've no sympathy. If you were drink driving I hope they bang you up and then throw you out

fatbrit Oct 29th 2007 1:10 am

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by cjekop83 (Post 5476140)
Hi,

can any one give me advice. I was arrested and charged with DWI and as an Unlicensed driver whilst on vacation in NJ.

I have a court date for this week but my passport is in DC getting renewed as I am currently traveling and the US was a longer stop so it made sense to renew now before carrying on.

Does any one know the likely out come of the court appearance?

Any help would be great

If you want a total guess, $1k for the dwi and $1k for the no license. Many jurisdictions hav a couple of day in jail and/or community service for the DWI.

Jerseygirl Oct 29th 2007 1:14 am

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by Thydney (Post 5481424)
Sorry but I've no sympathy. If you were drink driving I hope they bang you up and then throw you out

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Englishmum Oct 29th 2007 1:49 am

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by cjekop83 (Post 5476140)
Hi,

can any one give me advice. I was arrested and charged with DWI and as an Unlicensed driver whilst on vacation in NJ.

So if you were or are still on vacation in the NJ, are you still living in the UK and you are going directly to other countries after visiting the USA?

Were you stopped in a hire car which you rented using a British driving licence, or were you driving a friend's car? Your car rental papers should have dates and your licence details.

Anyone resident in NJ needs to exchange their current licence (US or an overseas licence) to a NJ within 60 days. How long have you been on vacation here? Can you prove it eg. on your I-94 (if you haven't sent it to the British Embassy with your passport).

Some links to the NJ Dept of Motor Vehicles......including for violations:

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/Visitors.htm (Foreign Tourists)

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/m.../license01.htm (Anyone resident for more than 60 days)

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/...n-Citizens.htm (How non-US citizens can obtain a NJ licence)

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Violations/index.htm (Violations)

Also I have no sympathy for drink-drivers....:thumbdown:

RoadWarriorFromLP Oct 29th 2007 5:59 am

Re: DWI on British License
 
I am not a proponent of driving drunk or of driving without a license, but you need an attorney who specializes in drunk driving cases, and who has experience and connections in the court where your case will be heard.

I don't know New Jersey law, but a first-time DUI in the US often includes a fine and/or some sort of community service. Driving without a license often involves a fine and some restrictions on getting one in the future.

Not having a lawyer generally makes things much worse, but you need to be sure to get a competent lawyer who knows this area of the law AND who knows the judges so you know what to expect. Your best hope is that they are golfing buddies or that the lawyer otherwise has some rapport with the judge so that your case is more likely to get the most favorable outcome possible, which I guess includes paying a big fine and "time served" (no additional jail time above and beyond what you received when you were arrested.)

And no, don't ever do it again. Killing or maiming someone just because you didn't want to pay for a taxi is one of most stupid things a human being could possibly do.

penguinsix Oct 29th 2007 11:43 am

Re: DWI on British License
 
You need a lawyer, unless you are just willing to pay the fine. Both offenses are much more severe than say speeding. Maybe others can answer how this will affect your future use of the Visa Waiver Program or whether you'll need to get a visa to come back to the US in the future.

tamms_1965 Oct 29th 2007 2:06 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 5481993)
I am not a proponent of driving drunk or of driving without a license, but you need an attorney who specializes in drunk driving cases, and who has experience and connections in the court where your case will be heard.

I don't know New Jersey law, but a first-time DUI in the US often includes a fine and/or some sort of community service. Driving without a license often involves a fine and some restrictions on getting one in the future.

Not having a lawyer generally makes things much worse, but you need to be sure to get a competent lawyer who knows this area of the law AND who knows the judges so you know what to expect. Your best hope is that they are golfing buddies or that the lawyer otherwise has some rapport with the judge so that your case is more likely to get the most favorable outcome possible, which I guess includes paying a big fine and "time served" (no additional jail time above and beyond what you received when you were arrested.)

And no, don't ever do it again. Killing or maiming someone just because you didn't want to pay for a taxi is one of most stupid things a human being could possibly do.

Even USC almost ALWAYS have an attorney for a DUI/DWI...it will cost you but it's the price you pay for drinking/driving.

Englishmum Oct 29th 2007 6:52 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 
Interesting that no further posts have been made here by the O/P.

I guess he/she had replies that he/she didn't want to hear....:unsure:

NannyAnn Oct 31st 2007 6:50 pm

Re: DWI on British License
 

Originally Posted by Englishmum (Post 5481515)
So if you were or are still on vacation in the NJ, are you still living in the UK and you are going directly to other countries after visiting the USA?

Were you stopped in a hire car which you rented using a British driving licence, or were you driving a friend's car? Your car rental papers should have dates and your licence details.

Anyone resident in NJ needs to exchange their current licence (US or an overseas licence) to a NJ within 60 days. How long have you been on vacation here? Can you prove it eg. on your I-94 (if you haven't sent it to the British Embassy with your passport).

Some links to the NJ Dept of Motor Vehicles......including for violations:

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/Visitors.htm (Foreign Tourists)

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/m.../license01.htm (Anyone resident for more than 60 days)

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/...n-Citizens.htm (How non-US citizens can obtain a NJ licence)

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Violations/index.htm (Violations)

Also I have no sympathy for drink-drivers....:thumbdown:

Hi,
Just a quick question on the 60 days thing... I have just moved to NJ from the uk with a UK license and an International Driving permit. I was under the impression I had 12 months to do the test and get a NJ license - is this wrong? It seems I may have to do this a lot sooner.

Thanks,
Ann


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