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Old Dec 1st 2016, 12:39 pm
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Default Re: Dual US/UK Citizen Tax Question

Originally Posted by Cook_County
There are other methods of coming forward available such as traditional IRS voluntary disclosure, a reasonable cause argument and first-time abate.


Wilfulness is impossible to be certain on without the decision of a court.
Reasonable cause is part of the streamlined agreement. First time abate is for a one time failure to file/failure to pay. It requires a three year clean compliance history (which if he has not filed obviously would not qualify for). Moreover it's not a path to compliance. It's just a remedy for certain penalties.

Willfullness is not impossible to determine. There are legal guidelines promulgated through Treasury regulations, TC Memos, and hundreds of tax court cases.
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Old Dec 1st 2016, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by MidAtlantic
The streamlined procedure is for those whose failure to file arises from "non-willful conduct". The OP says nothing about this so it is impossible to say if this is the right option.
When the taxpayer lives abroad willfullness is hard to prove. He lives and works in the UK and has ties there. It would make sense that he has foreign accounts and assets there for perfectly legitimate reasons and not solely to evade taxes. Compare with someone who lives in the US and has an undisclosed account in the Caymans. He has no ties to the Caymans other than his account. It wouldn't be too hard in that case to find willfulness.
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Old Dec 1st 2016, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by TXLonghorn
When the taxpayer lives abroad willfullness is hard to prove. He lives and works in the UK and has ties there. It would make sense that he has foreign accounts and assets there for perfectly legitimate reasons and not solely to evade taxes. Compare with someone who lives in the US and has an undisclosed account in the Caymans. He has no ties to the Caymans other than his account. It wouldn't be too hard in that case to find willfulness.
I didn't say it was easy or hard. I said we had no facts (and certainly the typical "help I've just discovered I should have been filing" blind panic is absent).
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Default Re: Dual US/UK Citizen Tax Question

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Reasonable cause is part of the streamlined agreement. First time abate is for a one time failure to file/failure to pay. It requires a three year clean compliance history (which if he has not filed obviously would not qualify for). Moreover it's not a path to compliance. It's just a remedy for certain penalties.

Willfullness is not impossible to determine. There are legal guidelines promulgated through Treasury regulations, TC Memos, and hundreds of tax court cases.
Reasonable cause sits in the statute. The IRS streamlined procedures have no standing under law, as they are not law.
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