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Old Sep 29th 2021, 5:59 pm
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Credit check for employment purposes is discriminatory in many States.
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Old Sep 29th 2021, 9:44 pm
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Was this to test your aim?
Thankfully not
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Credit check for employment purposes is discriminatory in many States.
There are always exclusions
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I’ve never had to take an employment drug test, nor would I want to work for an employer that required one. This is for software development jobs in California. I have had cursory background checks done but they never went as far as pursuing non-US records. Lots of state-specific laws about what is/isn’t legal in pre-employment screening.

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I’ve never had to take an employment drug test, nor would I want to work for an employer that required one. This is for software development jobs in California. I have had cursory background checks done but they never went as far as pursuing non-US records. Lots of state-specific laws about what is/isn’t legal in pre-employment screening.
You won't be getting much more than a minimum wage job in NC without a drug test.
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You won't be getting much more than a minimum wage job in NC without a drug test.
That doesn’t surprise me… just one more reason I wouldn’t live in NC.
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That doesn’t surprise me… just one more reason I wouldn’t live in NC.
What's the big deal? It's nice to know that you aren't working with a bunch of convicted felons.
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What's the big deal? It's nice to know that you aren't working with a bunch of convicted felons.
Pot is legal in many states and would fail many such tests… so the felon bit is a straw man.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
Pot is legal in many states and would fail many such tests… so the felon bit is a straw man.
Clearly, I'm referring to background checks when I'm referring to felons.

Without going any research, I assume that employers in the states in which it is legal do not check for the presence of a legal substance any more than they check for alcohol (or they disregard a positive for such a substance)

Either way I still don't see what the problem is. An employer is allowed to determine, within the law, who they want working for them.
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Clearly, I'm referring to background checks when I'm referring to felons.

Without going any research, I assume that employers in the states in which it is legal do not check for the presence of a legal substance any more than they check for alcohol (or they disregard a positive for such a substance)

Either way I still don't see what the problem is. An employer is allowed to determine, within the law, who they want working for them.
i didn’t express any objection to background checks…

I think the pot thing is a grey area in many states with employment law not having caught up to state pot laws. It’s complicated by the fact that it’s still illegal at the federal level.

Anyway my point is that testing for pot - which many employers do - is ridiculous if you’re not screening for alcohol and tobacco use. At the very least I’d advise people to see what they are being screened for.
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Anyway my point is that testing for pot - which many employers do - is ridiculous if you’re not screening for alcohol and tobacco use.
Based on what are you making that assertion? The former is illegal in most of the Us, the later are not.
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I don't know why they bother. I saw the results of the background check for my last move and the external company made multiple mistakes, however I guess it ticked some HR box.
It is shocking how incompetent they can be. (the company doing the check).
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Old Oct 1st 2021, 2:02 am
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Originally Posted by civilservant View Post
Based on what are you making that assertion? The former is illegal in most of the Us, the later are not.
In only 4 states is marijuana fully illegal. In a further 7 CBD is legal and THC illegal, in 2 it's decriminalized, in 9 medical marijuana is legal, in 10 medical is legal and it's decriminalized and in 17 it's fully legal. So I disagree with your assertion:

https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state

So what's the purpose of screening for marijuana? If it's fitness for the job, then why aren't they testing for alcohol and tobacco use as well? If it's because it's illegal, well it simply isn't in most of the US. And if it's because of some notion that marijuana use indicates that a job candidate is likely to be a lawbreaker, I will simply shake my head.
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Old Oct 2nd 2021, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
In only 4 states is marijuana fully illegal. In a further 7 CBD is legal and THC illegal, in 2 it's decriminalized, in 9 medical marijuana is legal, in 10 medical is legal and it's decriminalized and in 17 it's fully legal. So I disagree with your assertion:

https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state

So what's the purpose of screening for marijuana? If it's fitness for the job, then why aren't they testing for alcohol and tobacco use as well? If it's because it's illegal, well it simply isn't in most of the US. And if it's because of some notion that marijuana use indicates that a job candidate is likely to be a lawbreaker, I will simply shake my head.
Why tobacco?
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Old Oct 3rd 2021, 4:24 pm
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Why tobacco?
Increases an employer’s healthcare costs disproportionately.
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