Drug screening & background check. Confused
#31
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So nothing related to why a drug test is typically performed as part of pre-employment screening.
For what its worth every US employer myself or my wife has had has increased premiums for tobacco users.
For what its worth every US employer myself or my wife has had has increased premiums for tobacco users.
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Tobacco users have higher rates of medical absences. It’s not just about premium costs.
#33
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Drug tests are to test for illicit drugs. If you don't have a prescription for medical pot (which you can prove, obviously) and it is not legal for recreational use in your state it is, by definition, an illicit drug.
No different than if you are taking loratabs without a prescription.
I don't see what the problem is. If you are saying that it shouldn't be considered an illicit drug then your problem is with state law, not the company seeking a pre-employment drug screen.
No different than if you are taking loratabs without a prescription.
I don't see what the problem is. If you are saying that it shouldn't be considered an illicit drug then your problem is with state law, not the company seeking a pre-employment drug screen.
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Drug tests are to test for illicit drugs. If you don't have a prescription for medical pot (which you can prove, obviously) and it is not legal for recreational use in your state it is, by definition, an illicit drug.
No different than if you are taking loratabs without a prescription.
I don't see what the problem is. If you are saying that it shouldn't be considered an illicit drug then your problem is with state law, not the company seeking a pre-employment drug screen.
No different than if you are taking loratabs without a prescription.
I don't see what the problem is. If you are saying that it shouldn't be considered an illicit drug then your problem is with state law, not the company seeking a pre-employment drug screen.
And to use your example, do employers test for Loratabs and demand to see a prescription if detected? Ditto for a zillion other drugs that require a prescription?
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#35
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And to use your example, do employers test for Loratabs and demand to see a prescription if detected? Ditto for a zillion other drugs that require a prescription?
There are an awful lot of things that are “illicit”. Why the fixation specifically on marijuana use?
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So what's the purpose of screening for marijuana? If it's fitness for the job, then why aren't they testing for alcohol and tobacco use as well? If it's because it's illegal, well it simply isn't in most of the US. And if it's because of some notion that marijuana use indicates that a job candidate is likely to be a lawbreaker, I will simply shake my head.
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So any alcohol use then?
So let's clear this up - your position is that there should be no drugs screening? Or that they should be screening for other things? If so, what?
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I think my position is pretty clear , namely that testing for marijuana is absurd when there is no testing for alcohol use. I realize it’s going to take a while for the predictable set of states to legalize marijuana but thankfully most of the country is there or on the way. So even this “illicit” argument - which is itself inconsistent - is going away.
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#41
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I notice that you failed to answer the question. How about you come up with a solution rather than sniping from the cheap seats? I'd genuinely like to know what your position actually is.
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#45
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Pre-employment tests for assorted substances do little in terms of safeguarding others anyway.
Anybody using anything knows to stop using for a certain amount of time beforehand.
Random regular testing after hiring might find more people, but there are very few roles where I would be comfortable with that happening.
Anybody using anything knows to stop using for a certain amount of time beforehand.
Random regular testing after hiring might find more people, but there are very few roles where I would be comfortable with that happening.