Judy Brown

If I don't have Green card or citizenship or valed via, how do I renew
my driver's license? Is there any state which will allow me to renew
it?

Tnanks in advance for your help.

Hnchoksi

    >Subject: Driver's license
    >From: [email protected] (judy brown)
    >Date: 5/10/03 11:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time
    >Message-id:
    >If I don't have Green card or citizenship or valed via, how do I renew
    >my driver's license? Is there any state which will allow me to renew
    >it?
    >Tnanks in advance for your help.

You may not be able to. If you dont have a current legal status, you are
illegal. Therefore not eligible for a license in most states.

Blank

Just go renew it. Nobody gonna ask you if you are legal or not.

"judy brown" wrote in message
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    > If I don't have Green card or citizenship or valed via, how do I renew
    > my driver's license? Is there any state which will allow me to renew
    > it?
    > Tnanks in advance for your help.

jognn

I renewed mine before 9/11 without any question asked, I just paid the fee and I got new one. I believe, but I'm not sure if The new law applies only to the first time applicant and not for renewal.

This is just an opinion and not fact.

Yushi Kaneda

Here in AZ, usually people have licenses that are valid until they are 60 or
65, but for those on visas, their license will expire when their visa
expires.

My question:
What does MVD take as the supporting document of authorized presence when
someone is on pending AOS (with A#) and the visa is expiring? Do they take
Receipt Notice of AOS and just give us licenses with their expiration dates
waaaaay ahead?
I will get the EAD before my H1 expires in November, but my wife won't get
one, as we're having baby next month and no need for her EAD.
I know I can get my license renewed with a new EAD, but what about my wife
without an EAD?
When would such a license expire when it was based on an EAD?

Thanks is advance.

Yushi




"blank" wrote in message
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    > Just go renew it. Nobody gonna ask you if you are legal or not.
    > "judy brown" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > If I don't have Green card or citizenship or valed via, how do I renew
    > > my driver's license? Is there any state which will allow me to renew
    > > it?
    > >
    > > Tnanks in advance for your help.

Alun Palmer

jognn wrote in
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    >
    > I renew mine without any question asked, I just paid the fee and I got
    > new one. I believe, but I'm not sure if The new law applies only to the
    > first time applicant and not for renewal.
    >
    > This is just an opinion and not fact.
    >
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    >

Most states that already have these laws only apply them to first time
applicants.

Taffyles

Not so in Florida- my hubby tried to get a new licence after we moved, change of address- and they wouldn't issue one without proof of his status- he didn't have his passport or green card on him, so he didn't get. He's had a licence 12 years. Things have changed since 9/11- we were never asked to show proof before.

jognn

That's right, I got this information through the Florida Motor Vehicule, and these is one of the questions.

My driver license was stolen/lost -- what can I do?

United States Citizen or Immigrant: If you are in Florida, you must go to your local driver license office and apply for a duplicate driver license. The fee is $10 and you must present two forms of identification. The fee will be waived for a stolen license if a police report has been filed. Please have a copy of the report with you when applying for the duplicate license. (NOTE: Proof of citizenship or legal presence may be required for renewal, duplicate or replacement licenses. Please come prepared to present an identification document as proof of citizenship or legal presence.)


I changed mine before 9/11, and it looks like things changed since.

Marlon

I went to take a test to upgrade my license, the clerk asked if I was a citizen or a resident alien, when I said resident alien, he asked to see my green card. When I told him that I had lost the card, he asked me if I had any other proof of residency and when I said no, he cut my license in two pieces. He gave me a piece of paper which he said would be my only license for the next thrirty days, until I can prove my residency. When I asked him why all of the changes, he said it was due to a new FEDERAL law to keep track of resident aliens. Further, he went on to say that your green card determines the expiration date on your license. So, to answer your question, I would not go to DMV for anything, trust me. By the way, I reside in Florida, but since the law he mention is a federal one, it applies to the entire nation.

brisray

It looks like the same thing has happened in Indiana. The laws were changed again here in March.

I'm still waiting for my green card and have no social security number, their site http://www.ai.org/bmv/driverlicense/idreq.html does say that all I need is the I-94 from my passport and a affidavit saying I've never been issued with a green card.

Whatever happens I'll have to start with a learner license for at least 60 days.

In the meantime, I'm still using my British driving license. I've only had it asked for once , and that when I got stopped for speeding in Georgia. I think the police officer was a bit confused and simply let me go with a warning.

I'm planning on simply waiting for my green card. I've had the interview and am just waiting for the name check. Then I'll apply for a SS# and then the driving license.

Can anyone see anything wrong with this plan? Or should I get this license now?

Ray

stevelisaw

You are wrong. They will indeed ask you for a current Green Card if you are not a citizen. My English husband tried to renew his license here in Ohio June 2002, he had not yet recevied his 10 year card, though his I-751 had had been approved and had I-551 stamp in his passport (which he did not carry with him at all times.) They told him they were becoming quite strict and you had to have proof of legal residency. He had to return with his passport to prove he was legally here and was a permanent resident before the would renew it.

Alun Palmer

Marlon wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    >
    > Originally posted by Judy Brown
    >> If I don't have Green card or citizenship or valed via, how do I renew
    >> my driver's license? Is there any state which will allow me to renew
    >> it?
    >> Tnanks in advance for your help.
    >
    > I went to take a test to upgrade my license, the clerk asked if I was a
    > citizen or a resident alien, when I said resident alien, he asked to see
    > my green card. When I told him that I had lost the card, he asked me if
    > I had any other proof of residency and when I said no, he cut my license
    > in two pieces. He gave me a piece of paper which he said would be my
    > only license for the next thrirty days, until I can prove my residency.
    > When I asked him why all of the changes, he said it was due to a new
    > FEDERAL law to keep track of resident aliens. Further, he went on to
    > say that your green card determines the expiration date on your license.
    > So, to answer your question, I would not go to DMV for anything, trust
    > me. By the way, I reside in Florida, but since the law he mention is a
    > federal one, it applies to the entire nation.
    >
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

I doubt very much if it is a federal law. There is a bill in Virginia to
introduce such a law, and one across the river here in Maryland to repeal
one! They wouldn't be debating these bills if there were a federal law, so
it must only be a state law.

NC Penguin

I find your post rather puzzling.

Do you rent or own your home? If it's either, you could have provided the DMV office with a rental agreement or evidence of mortgage payments for a home in the state. Even if you're a student living on a campus, I would think you would have something in writing showing that you are resident in the state.

Also, I applied for my first full US driving license only in February and the license is valid until 2010. My Green Card is valid until 2004, next year.

So, what's this Federal law that the member of staff was referring to?

Could it be that the member of staff screwed up and is misinformed?



NC Penguin

S B

Alun Palmer wrote:
    >
    > Marlon wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    > >
    > > Originally posted by Judy Brown
    > >> If I don't have Green card or citizenship or valed via, how do I renew
    > >> my driver's license? Is there any state which will allow me to renew
    > >> it?
    > >>
    > >> Tnanks in advance for your help.
    > >
    > > I went to take a test to upgrade my license, the clerk asked if I was a
    > > citizen or a resident alien, when I said resident alien, he asked to see
    > > my green card. When I told him that I had lost the card, he asked me if
    > > I had any other proof of residency and when I said no, he cut my license
    > > in two pieces. He gave me a piece of paper which he said would be my
    > > only license for the next thrirty days, until I can prove my residency.
    > > When I asked him why all of the changes, he said it was due to a new
    > > FEDERAL law to keep track of resident aliens. Further, he went on to
    > > say that your green card determines the expiration date on your license.
    > > So, to answer your question, I would not go to DMV for anything, trust
    > > me. By the way, I reside in Florida, but since the law he mention is a
    > > federal one, it applies to the entire nation.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    >
    > I doubt very much if it is a federal law. There is a bill in Virginia to
    > introduce such a law, and one across the river here in Maryland to repeal
    > one! They wouldn't be debating these bills if there were a federal law, so
    > it must only be a state law.

There is no such federal law ... there are however various state laws
that make an absolute mess for aliens trying to legitimately get a
license to obey the other laws that the state has wrt driving.

S B

NC Penguin wrote:

    > I find your post rather puzzling.
    >
    > Do you rent or own your home? If it's either, you could have provided
    > the DMV office with a rental agreement or evidence of mortgage payments
    > for a home in the state. Even if you're a student living on a campus, I
    > would think you would have something in writing showing that you are
    > resident in the state.
    >
    > Also, I applied for my first full US driving license only in February
    > and the license is valid until 2010. My Green Card is valid until 2004,
    > next year.
    >
    > So, what's this Federal law that the member of staff was referring to?
    >
    > Could it be that the member of staff screwed up and is misinformed?
    >
    > NC Penguin

There is no Federal law, it is state law and interpretation of the laws
that is up the creek. The laws actually serve to contradict each other.

The residence law that has been implemented for the purposes of
*obtaining a drivers license* in many states have implied that you must
be a citizen or a Permanent Resident (green card holder). But, by the
same token, another part of the law will state that someone who is
ordinarily resident (where he normally lives or works) must hold a
valid driver's license in that state within 30 days of assuming
residence. Note that this meaning of residence is entirely at odds with
the requirement to *get* a license of being a PR (on the basis of
immigration). This is a clear contradiction, so any non-immigrant who
is allowed to make temporary residence in the US (which excludes B
visitors) is required to have a license, but cannot legally get a
license!


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