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Old Dec 15th 2015, 1:36 pm
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Apparently, an internal policy at DHS forbade it!

Agents reportedly blocked by secret US policy from looking at social media of visa applicants | Fox News
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And rightly so. It would be operating completely outside the INA. Maybe if the US bothered stopping people being allowed to buy guns this massacre wouldn't have happened. But that would be silly, right? I've lost any sympathy for America and its gun violence problem; no one in power gives a shit. It's disgusting.
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Originally Posted by chawkins99
Sure it's forbidden, I guess they must not do it then...

Firstly we know they at least read BE. Secondly Snowden says they do. Thirdly one could be sounding a little paranoid here but that could be misinformation to make those of interest not worry too much.
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Originally Posted by chawkins99
Apparently, an internal policy at DHS forbade it! ....
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Sure it's forbidden, I guess they must not do it then. .....
My employer also forbids looking at LinkedIn and Farcebook pages of potential recruits.
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Sure it's forbidden, I guess they must not do it then...

Firstly we know they at least read BE. Secondly Snowden says they do. Thirdly one could be sounding a little paranoid here but that could be misinformation to make those of interest not worry too much.
Snowden says the spooks do, even then it's not directly targetting social media per se; it's a huge data collection that they attempt to sort through via algorithms. That's a LONG way from a USCIS staffer - or a developed algorithm - conducting a 'social media' check.

..and even if they did do it, under what grounds could they deny someone a visa or a successful adjustment? 'Your facebook page said things we disagree with'. Come on...
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Originally Posted by hungryhorace
Snowden says the spooks do, even then it's not directly targetting social media per se; it's a huge data collection that they attempt to sort through via algorithms. That's a LONG way from a USCIS staffer - or a developed algorithm - conducting a 'social media' check.

..and even if they did do it, under what grounds could they deny someone a visa or a successful adjustment? 'Your facebook page said things we disagree with'. Come on...
Hey, I don't need to defend what they do. They can do whatever they want and probably don't need to give a detailed reason why a visa was denied. A blanket "national security" reason would probably suffice.

What I would expect to see is more and more applications being placed in longer and longer "administrative processing".

It also goes back to what I always say when people on here ask "do you think they know about...". Always assume they know about what you are trying to hide from them.
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Hey, I don't need to defend what they do. They can do whatever they want and probably don't need to give a detailed reason why a visa was denied. A blanket "national security" reason would probably suffice.

What I would expect to see is more and more applications being placed in longer and longer "administrative processing".

It also goes back to what I always say when people on here ask "do you think they know about...". Always assume they know about what you are trying to hide from them.
Fair points.
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Given that they can't even figure out that Ted Kennedy is not the same guy as the guy on the no-fly list, I can't see that they'd be able to ID the correct person on social media either, so this seems destined for the scrapheap of silliness that is US paranoia about immigrants.
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Originally Posted by Steve_
Given that they can't even figure out that Ted Kennedy is not the same guy as the guy on the no-fly list, I can't see that they'd be able to ID the correct person on social media either, so this seems destined for the scrapheap of silliness that is US paranoia about immigrants.
Exactly. It's a completely ridiculous proposition; unworkable, unfair and impractical.
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Remember that couple who were denied entry because they were going to a concert in L.A. and said they were going to "destroy" it on Twitter.
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It would have still happened. Those 2 were going to do it one way or another.




Originally Posted by hungryhorace
And rightly so. It would be operating completely outside the INA. Maybe if the US bothered stopping people being allowed to buy guns this massacre wouldn't have happened. But that would be silly, right? I've lost any sympathy for America and its gun violence problem; no one in power gives a shit. It's disgusting.
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Family-based visa terrorists will kill more people in the USA. These visas are the easiest way into the USA, it is common knowledge. Then the US will react and Fiancee or marriage based visas will be restricted.
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Originally Posted by Steve_
Remember that couple who were denied entry because they were going to a concert in L.A. and said they were going to "destroy" it on Twitter.
Both were using their real names. Rookie error.
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Family-based visa terrorists will kill more people in the USA.
What complete and utter bullshit.
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It would have still happened. Those 2 were going to do it one way or another.
They wouldn't have been able to do it if their matey boy friend hadn't have purchased assault weapons for them.
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