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Old Apr 13th 2011, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Ahh, but that's what these threads are usually like....
It's still fun to argue about it though I have to admit. I'll usually jump in to defend the UK if I can, I'll make no apologies for that

What everyone has to remember is, both Derrygal and I came from Northern Ireland - which is obviously the best part of the UK to be from . . .

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Old Apr 13th 2011, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
It's still fun to argue about it though I have to admit. I'll usually jump in to defend the UK if I can, I'll make no apologies for that

What everyone has to remember is, both Derrygal and I came from Northern Ireland - which is obviously the best part of the UK to be from . . .

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Old Apr 13th 2011, 8:59 pm
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Default Re: Do you like it in the USA?

Originally Posted by lansbury
I don't have a well paying job, in fact I don't have a job at all. Not sure the health insurance I have is good, but I pay for it myself.

I'm most certainly not screwed, basically or otherwise, and I most certainly have a better life and standard of living here than when I worked in the UK.
I have a real hard time believing this... I have a well paying job with "good" health care coverage and I have had a hard time balancing expenses to fend of poverty.

My wife had our second and third child... she was in labour for 5 hours, 4 of which were at home, she pop out the babies in literally an hour each time, without a doctor, epidural, or a f**king aspirin, then we left the following morning... that cost us $16,000 to $18,000 each, with "excellent" medical coverage. Our 4th child miscarried and that cost us $40,000, to scrape the inside of my wife's uterus. (sick - Even death is sold at a premium).... I could tell you more horror stories from my friends, but I think everyone has heard them...

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Old Apr 13th 2011, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by lansbury
I don't have a well paying job, in fact I don't have a job at all. Not sure the health insurance I have is good, but I pay for it myself.I'm most certainly not screwed, basically or otherwise, and I most certainly have a better life and standard of living here than when I worked in the UK.
You don't know if your health insurance is good or not? Let's hope you don't get sick then and have a nasty surprise!
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Old Apr 13th 2011, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
It's still fun to argue about it though I have to admit. I'll usually jump in to defend the UK if I can, I'll make no apologies for that

What everyone has to remember is, both Derrygal and I came from Northern Ireland - which is obviously the best part of the UK to be from . . .Watch me get my arse kicked now
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Old Apr 13th 2011, 9:03 pm
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It's quite ironic.....before we moved out last July my wife and kids were quite hesitant about such a big move whilst I couldn't wait.

Nearly a year in, roles are reversed somewhat......the wife and kids cannot imagine having to go back to the UK to live whereas there are some things I really miss (countryside, hedgerows, village pubs, the coast).

Loving the sports, the lifestyle, the differences between States and the customer service (so long as you don't ask for anything out of the ordinary or need issues resolved!).

Things that are frustrating are the politicians, T party idiots, healthcare costs, sheer bureaucracy (computer says no mentality).

Sure wouldn't want to be out here with a limited income.....
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Originally Posted by BritishToTheEnd
I have a real hard time believing this...
I stated my personal circumstances which are correct, but you mistake me for someone who gives a toss what you believe.
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Old Apr 13th 2011, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by lansbury
I stated my personal circumstances which are correct, but you mistake me for someone who gives a toss what you believe.
+ 1. We can only speak for ourselves.
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Old Apr 13th 2011, 9:32 pm
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Default Re: Do you like it in the USA?

Originally Posted by Derrygal
You don't know if your health insurance is good or not? Let's hope you don't get sick then and have a nasty surprise!
I did last year and needed surgery which cost just on $36K, and my insurance covered me for what I understood it would, and my out of pocket cost were what I anticipated it to be.

Now as I'm not an expert on US health insurance I don't know what is classed as good cover for a specific premium. Taking into account all combinations of health insurance premiums, co-pay, deductibles I have no idea if my insurance would be classed as good against what an employer might provide. I very much doubt you have the knowledge to be able to come to an intelligent conclusion either.

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Old Apr 13th 2011, 9:38 pm
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I find it stunning that a "civilised" country can allow so many of it's citizens to be effectively without any form of health-care and the rest to be under-provided !

I'm amazed that the people aren't on the streets protesting - I know they would be in any European country.

That for me is the starkest difference between the US and Europe, and has been a real shock. Plus the lack of willingness of anyone to actually talk about this as a "problem" - there is definitely a Pollyanna attitude here which also takes a LOT of getting used to.
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Old Apr 13th 2011, 11:01 pm
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Originally Posted by lansbury
I did last year and needed surgery which cost just on $36K, and my insurance covered me for what I understood it would, and my out of pocket cost were what I anticipated it to be.

Now as I'm not an expert on US health insurance I don't know what is classed as good cover for a specific premium. Taking into account all combinations of health insurance premiums, co-pay, deductibles I have no idea if my insurance would be classed as good against what an employer might provide. I very much doubt you have the knowledge to be able to come to an intelligent conclusion either.


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Old Apr 13th 2011, 11:08 pm
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Default Re: Do you like it in the USA?

Originally Posted by Derrygal
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How do you know? You don't know anything about me. I could have the genius of Einstein!!
I think the point Derrygal is making is that the system is SO broken, SO skewed in the favour of the drug companies and against the patient that even the genius of 10 Einsteins couldn't work out if its good or not...
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Originally Posted by dlake02
I think the point Derrygal is making is that the system is SO broken, SO skewed in the favour of the drug companies and against the patient that even the genius of 10 Einsteins couldn't work out if its good or not...
You're absolutely right!! God only knows if the system will ever be fixed. It is one bloody mess!!
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Originally Posted by dlake02
I find it stunning that a "civilised" country can allow so many of it's citizens to be effectively without any form of health-care and the rest to be under-provided !
I like to think of it as survival of the fittest.

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I like to think of it as survival of the fittest.

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