Rete

I do not agree with your take on the ss card with a legend not being "technically valid" if you have a green card.

A green card confers the right to work and as such is part and parcel of work authorization by the USCIS. Therefore, the legend does not detract from the card's validity.

BTW the social security card was never a proof of one's ability to work but used for deduction of taxes for state, federal and city taxes and for medicaid contributions.

Although one can and should apply for the legend to be removed once they are a PR, it is not because it is technically invalid but rather that the green card is all encompassing and a separate work document, or advance parole is not required for the authorities.

Noorah101

Rete,

On the I-9 Verification of Employment, if a SS card is being used as a hiring document (i.e., something from Column B plus something from Column C), it cannot be the one with the legend.

See here: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf (last page)

If someone has a green card or EAD, they can show that as a hiring document (something from Column A).

Rene

Bob

Around here, there's a lot of fake passports, mostly Brazilian ones that people use to try and open accounts, because of that, many boozers won't accept a passport at all because they don't want to discriminate against certain countries who's residents most likely have fake documentation.

Tad daft, but some of these fakes are half decent according to the missus.

Jerseygirl

There are notices up at my local DMV about reporting fake ID's...passports, driving licences etc. I often wonder if we should report all the spammy fake ID posts we get.

fsm

Thank you for adding that clarification.

I had worded it as technically on purpose as any change of status invalidates previous status, as soon as the green card was issued my SSC was then required to be replaced. My attorney made me do it the same day.

Bob

Very little point, so easy for someone to google places to get official looking ID for cheap, depending on what people want them for, usually college ID to be used for booze, but also state driving licenses and some country passports, usually good enough for the boozer if there's a large student population, but not much else.

People who use really bad ones should be given a prize though for brass balls. The missus said she had someone use a photo copy of someones driving license with their photo stuck on it and laminated...that's just quality

Jerseygirl

Someone must have read my post...another bloody spammy fake ID thread deleted.

They probably track all those types of posts anyway.

HarryTheSpider

Back to the OP - sounds like an idiot, ignorant person, or power trip at work.

Or all 3.

Used passport for DL which threw them briefly, it not being a US one etc. after that was fine...

Steve_

I know I've spoken to at least one Canadian on TN-1 who has a NY licence, and the licence is co-terminous with their I-94 and has "TN-1" put in the licence notation. Undoubtedly they gave them a SSN card with "only valid for employment with DHS authorization" on it.

An LPR card on its own without an SSN card is sufficient to fill in an I-9 also.

celticgrid

That might explain why, when I went in to get my status updated on their systems after becoming a citizen, they insisted I had to have a new SSC, despite my existing one being totally 'normal' i.e. no added text at all. I was told I had to have a new card.

I now have 2 cards which, apart from the odd crease, are identical. Their computer system is following some set of rules, whether right or wrong.

Steve_

Like I said in the self verify thread, a lot of people are unaware of the changes back in 2003 in how the SSA works and how often you have to go now and fill in an SS-5 for whatever reason. Pretty much every time you fill one in they spit out a new card.

Now with E-verify being more widely used, people are realizing the SSA database contains a lot of bogus information.

There is a proposal by Sen. Schumer to replace all SSN cards with biometric cards and employers would have a card reader in their workplace hooked up to an E-verify type system. If you were a small employer supposedly you would have to go to the SSA office and use their system when you hired someone. Doesn't seem to be going anywhere in Congress, but then nothing is.

Bob

Now you've got a spare card to sell to some bloke called Pablo, down the pub...might want to keep an eye out on your credit score if you do though

Speaking of though, MIL worked with someone who is married to someone who is getting deported, he got found out when the SSN he was using, being used by 5 other people as it happens, anyway, the actual person it belonged to died and it all got found out when the missus started claiming some death benefits. The chap has been in the US at least 6 years and he's still paying off the bloke who smuggled him into the US

MarylandNed

The cards shouldn't be identical. The last one you received should have the record change date printed on the front.

Whenever you become a US citizen, the SSA needs to be informed so they can update their records. This is because other US government agencies use SSA records to verify US citizenship. I found this out the hard way whenever my daughter applied for financial aid for college. She was contacted by the US Dept of Education who informed her that her US citizenship could not be confirmed. This is when we discovered they were using SSA records to verify citizenship. We went along to the local SSA office with our US passports and had them update their records to flag us as US citizens. The person who processed us informed me that the system would automatically spit out new SSN cards because that's the way the system has been programmed to work. The cards arrived a few days later and all of them had the date that our records were updated printed on the front.

Steve_

Why would she need to be a citizen to get financial aid? LPRs qualify. Or had she had the card since you were in a non-immigrant status?

fsm

It is all sort of baloney, for instance I could not get financial aid I until i register for selective service or in my case prove why I did not register for selective service.