Discrimination against a non US citizen
We are Permanent Residents and have been living and working in Florida for over 5 years and of course paying all taxes.
I have noticed over the past 12 months, on receiving various coupons through the mail, that some offers are open to "US citizens" only. Is this actually legal? I certainly wouldn't mind producing my Permanent Resident card as proof in order gain a 'Senior Special Eye Exam' etc. Does anyone know about this discrimination? Also, we were refused a free mini cruise two years ago for the same reason (I know they are really a bit of a con) but the principle is the same and the company did write and telephone us. Any advice would be gratefully received. |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
We've been here 25 years and even back then a lot of competitions and offers like the free weekend from time share companies always said US citizens, so it's not new. It used to be in the small print so not as noticeable maybe
As my Dh says, "it is what it is" It never really bothered me. |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
If it worries you, naturalise.
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by linda and nick
(Post 10291875)
Is this actually legal?
Does anyone know about this discrimination? Ian |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Thanks for that Ian. A clear and precise answer (:
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
It’s probably just a generalization from someone not understanding the intricacies of immigration and who can live here legally. Chances are, if you showed up and explained, you’d be fine.
I flew into a LA a couple of years ago as a greencard holder, and immigration had 2 lines: 1. US Citizens 2. Visitors I was of course, neither. |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by hobbes79
(Post 10292573)
It’s probably just a generalization from someone not understanding the intricacies of immigration and who can live here legally. Chances are, if you showed up and explained, you’d be fine.
I flew into a LA a couple of years ago as a greencard holder, and immigration had 2 lines: 1. US Citizens 2. Visitors I was of course, neither. |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by linda and nick
(Post 10291875)
I have noticed over the past 12 months, on receiving various coupons through the mail, that some offers are open to "US citizens" only.
States also often have their own civil rights legislation although I think only California has one that has any real teeth to it. It also happens the other way around, offers for things that you are not legally able to do. For example, I endlessly get contacted by brokerage companies when I'm in the US, but as a non-resident alien I cannot use a US brokerage company. |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
It's legal fine print due to contests rules. They are very regulated that is why there is a page of small print when entering for a $20 gift card at the grocery store. Some are restricted by state of residence too. I would not call it discrimination or civil rights issue because it's a contest!
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by linda and nick
(Post 10291875)
We are Permanent Residents and have been living and working in Florida for over 5 years and of course paying all taxes.
I have noticed over the past 12 months, on receiving various coupons through the mail, that some offers are open to "US citizens" only. Is this actually legal? I certainly wouldn't mind producing my Permanent Resident card as proof in order gain a 'Senior Special Eye Exam' etc. Does anyone know about this discrimination? Also, we were refused a free mini cruise two years ago for the same reason (I know they are really a bit of a con) but the principle is the same and the company did write and telephone us. Any advice would be gratefully received. |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Like someone mentioned above, people seem to think people in the US are either citizens, visitors or illegal. My family even has some mad thought in their head that when i enter the US im a citizen. I've explained numerous times that it doesnt work like that!
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by tuxedocat
(Post 10294100)
It's legal fine print due to contests rules. They are very regulated that is why there is a page of small print when entering for a $20 gift card at the grocery store. Some are restricted by state of residence too. I would not call it discrimination or civil rights issue because it's a contest!
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by linda and nick
(Post 10294140)
Thanks for your reply tuxedocat but at no time have I mentioned a "contest!":confused:
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
I have always thought the US Citizen type thing actually just meant anyone that was living in the US legally?
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by Sugarmooma
(Post 10294213)
I have always thought the US Citizen type thing actually just meant anyone that was living in the US legally?
Ian |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
(Post 10294218)
Generally, I think that's exactly what it means... although they don't write it that way. I think that's because it's easier (and takes up less ink) to write USC than to encompass all the variations on legal residency.
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Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by yellowroom
(Post 10294227)
I'm not sure that significantly more ink or pixels are needed to say "US citizens and residents only."
Ian |
Re: Discrimination against a non US citizen
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
(Post 10294235)
Yah... but "residents" is a decidedly nebulous term, although "legal residents" would certainly be an improvement.
Ian Also it is constitutionally unclear as to whether even legal permanent residents are a protected class. The provisions of the constitution dealing with diversity, citizenship and aliens are dealing with state diversity, citizenship and alien status. What is constitutionally clear is states and the federal government cannot discriminate against non-US citizens for the purposes of education and health care but may for certain state benefits. |
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