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Thank you again to all of you, my daughter hopes to go into nursing school.
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Re: A lvels and US college
Originally posted by markwplatt As I have an 17 year old applying to US colleges right now I am up with this stuff. There are a wide range of things taken into ccount in getting in to a US college. Your GPA (which as far as I know doesnt exist in the UK) your score in the SAT or ACT and now your score in SAT II exams whihc are subject specific. In addition your outside interests and any work experience may be important. There are several approaches to getting started for an overseas student . She may want to get into a local community college and get ready for the SAT/ACT or even finnish some of her early college requirements. The local colleges are more likely to be flexible in their enterence requirements and are much, much cheaper. I am always amused at those who think that the British system of concentrating on 3/4 subjects at A level is so superior to the US system. My son is taking a full load of science and arts course and will , if he succeeds, get a waiver from his first year uni courses. He is educated in a wider range of material than a graduating UK 6th former. There are pluses and minuses to both systems neither is clearly superior or the british system wouldn't be in the turmoil it is now! Here's part of the longitudinal study of 15 yr olds in all industrialised countries- US comes out average in all areas- British kids perform significantly higher especially in maths and science. This study has prompted Bush's "no child left behind" program here in the states because of the disappointing US results. Until they get high school kids into science labs- they are not going to catch up in that department in my opinion. http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/2000hl_fig5.asp You can dig round the site for more stats and info, but above link shows the Maths and Science Literacy results. |
One of the biggest concerns I'd have would be the cost of financing a college education here if my kids were that age. There is a seperate thread on the subject, but you'd be looking at $20k per student per year, which is not to be sniffed at. Why not pack him/her off to uni in England, then set off?
(As you can see, not one for really close families) ;) |
Originally posted by JerseyBoy One of the biggest concerns I'd have would be the cost of financing a college education here if my kids were that age. There is a seperate thread on the subject, but you'd be looking at $20k per student per year, which is not to be sniffed at. Why not pack him/her off to uni in England, then set off? (As you can see, not one for really close families) ;) Yep that's a major concern of parenthood here- you take out college saving plans when kids are born- and work two jobs (if you can get them) to put your kids through school. A professor I know at the State University here works a paper round at nights to help put his kids (he has 4) through college. My daughter was awarded full tuition scholarship for her school but it still cost us $17,000 a year to send her- that was out of State though, which is a good deal more expensive than in-State. |
Re: A lvels and US college
Originally posted by Taffyles He must be doing the AP courses. Basically the first two years of a BA here is general education- about the standard of UK GCSEs- the last two years is roughly equivalent to 4 UK A levels. In a nutshell. British teens coming into this system soar to the top of their class LOL Here's part of the longitudinal study of 15 yr olds in all industrialised countries- US comes out average in all areas- British kids perform significantly higher especially in maths and science. This study has prompted Bush's "no child left behind" program here in the states because of the disappointing US results. Until they get high school kids into science labs- they are not going to catch up in that department in my opinion. http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/2000hl_fig5.asp You can dig round the site for more stats and info, but above link shows the Maths and Science Literacy results. This sounds like nonsense, while I agree that the average data shows a significant difference between 15 year olds here and in the UK, i cnnot agree that the education for 18-20 year olds at reasonable colleges here is the same as that of 15 year olds in the UK. If this were true the UK would clearly hold the technological and iintelectual advantage in teh world with having the best educated massess, just follow the news of teh resorts in Crete to see what teh youth of Britain get up to when not persuing PhDs. |
Re: A lvels and US college
Originally posted by markwplatt So let me see, the first two years at lets say Yale or Harvard or UVA are equivilent to GCSE at an english secondary school and the second two years at Brown or UCLA etc bring you up to A level standard. This sounds like nonsense, just follow the news of teh resorts in Crete to see what teh youth of Britain get up to when not persuing PhDs. |
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