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Old Sep 19th 2005, 8:56 pm
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Here's a snippet I took from an interview with Bill Clinton on ABC This Week, aired yesterday.

"What Americans need to understand is that ... every single day of the year, our government goes into the market and borrows money from other countries to finance Iraq,
Afghanistan, Katrina, and our tax cuts," he said.

"We have never done this before. Never in the history of our republic have we ever financed a conflict, military conflict, by borrowing money from somewhere else."

Clinton added: "We depend on Japan, China, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and Korea primarily to basically loan us money every day of the year to cover my tax cut and these conflicts and Katrina. I don't think it makes any sense."


I must admit I didn't know this. And that scares me. Not just the fact that I didn't know that, but the fact itself. I hate to be hogging the doomsday sign, but my god, where are we going to be by the time Bush gets out of office. :scared:
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Old Sep 19th 2005, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa

Clinton added: "We depend on Japan, China, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and Korea primarily to basically loan us money every day of the year to cover my tax cut and these conflicts and Katrina. I don't think it makes any sense."[/I]

I must admit I didn't know this. And that scares me. Not just the fact that I didn't know that, but the fact itself. I hate to be hogging the doomsday sign, but my god, where are we going to be by the time Bush gets out of office. :scared:
This was true before the conflict simply based upon our thirst for oil. If China and Japan decide not to lend us any more money, and call in their debts, we're toast. Burnt toast.
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
.... my god, where are we going to be by the time Bush gets out of office. :scared:
Well, I'm hoping I'll be in the U.K.
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Well, I'm hoping I'll be in the U.K.
I'm hoping I will have a way out if/when this happens.
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Well, I'm hoping I'll be in the U.K.
Good for you....but do you really think there is anywhere to hide from this catastrophe?
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Good for you....but do you really think there is anywhere to hide from this catastrophe?
You're right that it will have a domino effect on the world's economy -- which is precisely *why* the Japanese and Chinese haven't cut us off -- yet. There won't be any place to hide, per se, but there will be better places and worse places. Those places that are the most self-sufficient and which still retain the materials and skilled labour to manufacture goods we use everyday, will be best prepared. That also goes for individual cities in the US..... if you are used to eating cranberries, for example, best to be in New England where they are grown.
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Well, I'm hoping I'll be in the U.K.
Same here, much rather be in my own country even if thing's are bad.
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If it all goes pear shaped then who do you think will be the losers. Certainly not America. We have all the goods and the foreigners have worthless bits of paper.
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Originally Posted by britvic
Same here, much rather be in my own country even if thing's are bad.

Even if Iran pushes on with their nuclear programme?
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If it all goes pear shaped then who do you think will be the losers. Certainly not America. We have all the goods and the foreigners have worthless bits of paper.
The US consumes $700bn a year more "goods" than it makes. It covers this gap by issuing bits of paper. If the "bits of paper" become worthless then you better get used to doing without $700bn worth of stuff.
And since the federal government will no longer be able to borrow, you better get used to paying a lot more tax too.
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Here's a snippet I took from an interview with Bill Clinton on ABC This Week, aired yesterday.

"What Americans need to understand is that ... every single day of the year, our government goes into the market and borrows money from other countries to finance Iraq,
Afghanistan, Katrina, and our tax cuts," he said.

"We have never done this before. Never in the history of our republic have we ever financed a conflict, military conflict, by borrowing money from somewhere else."

Clinton added: "We depend on Japan, China, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and Korea primarily to basically loan us money every day of the year to cover my tax cut and these conflicts and Katrina. I don't think it makes any sense."


I must admit I didn't know this. And that scares me. Not just the fact that I didn't know that, but the fact itself. I hate to be hogging the doomsday sign, but my god, where are we going to be by the time Bush gets out of office. :scared:
Last night I went to see "Lord of War" at the cinema with my husband I must admit I didn't really want to go that much because I thought it was going to be a bit of a guys flick, action type thing. I was dead wrong, it was scary in a real sense, I highly recommend everyone going to see it.
The way arms are traded all over the world is unbelievable. The US, UK, Russia, China, Japan and France are the worlds biggest arms makers and dealers. I know most people will have an idea of this anyway but this film hits you between the eyes with the grim reality of selling guns to the world.
A must see.
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Well, I'm hoping I'll be in the U.K.
You and me both! Its getting out of hand..
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You and me both! Its getting out of hand..
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What? Gas prices? War in Iraq? Cost of living? Oh I forgot the UK is Utopia and nothing bad happens there. Its one thing to go back to the UK because you're homesick, but it's an entirely other matter when you're running away to avoid the world at large.
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
What? Gas prices? War in Iraq? Cost of living? Oh I forgot the UK is Utopia and nothing bad happens there. Its one thing to go back to the UK because you're homesick, but it's an entirely other matter when you're running away to avoid the world at large.
I'v been home sick for three bloody long year's So what's upset you some of us just saying we are or we'er going home, come what may!!!
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
What? Gas prices? War in Iraq? Cost of living? Oh I forgot the UK is Utopia and nothing bad happens there. Its one thing to go back to the UK because you're homesick, but it's an entirely other matter when you're running away to avoid the world at large.
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