Is This The Death Of America?
Oct 9th 2005, 4:38 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Maternity care is very behind here. Its still de rigeur to make the mother lie on her back feet up in stirrups, while the doctor insists he knows best. Natural births any other way (including home births) are a no no. I was shocked when I found this out. Also the post natal care is atrocious in most cases - no health visitors and no midwifes checking on mum and baby as we have back home.
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Oct 9th 2005, 4:45 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Pulaski
Isn't it more astonishing that in a country that does have "free" state education, that so many people have children that they cannot, and surely know ahead of time they cannot, afford to feed, clothe, and care for?
What ever happened to personal responsibility?
What ever happened to personal responsibility?
Oct 9th 2005, 4:57 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Interesting thought....
It is indeed and I'm not going to confine this to the US. I can not condone any culture that continues to allow/force women to produce babies continually until the end of their childbearing years. Knowing that you can not afford to clothe and feed your growing family and yet deliberately adding to the population of that family just doesn't compute. I am against abortion as a form of birth control and that to me is where the issue of personal responsibility comes in.
Oct 9th 2005, 8:17 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Maz
There are hospitals now that refuse the woman a natural birth, where C-sections are all scheduled. It saves time and lawsuits, don't you know? 
Oct 9th 2005, 8:19 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Not much of an option after tomorrow.
Oct 9th 2005, 8:29 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Bob
I thought there was a clause that you could still file if you could convince the person doing your case that you really still couldn't afford the base minimum which I think is $5 a month? though you really would have to be in the poop if you couldn't afford that...
Oct 9th 2005, 8:35 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Chorlton
yeah, what kind of a president leaves his country without a deficit? 
Oct 9th 2005, 8:42 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by woodsey
Maybe this has something to do with the fact that the vast majority of American women have an epidural at the first sign of labour..
Oct 9th 2005, 10:10 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
That maybe the case, but realistically how many can you see actually getting that? You would basically have to be a street bum. And if have any earnings you can make the minimum $5 legally.
Oct 9th 2005, 10:17 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Bob
yup, you'll be paying off the $5 a month till the day you die, whcih will probably be sooner than the day you'll be able to pay it off by...
Oct 9th 2005, 10:45 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Especially if you happened to get ill again in the meantime
Oct 9th 2005, 10:55 am
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Re: Is This The Death Of America?
Originally Posted by Bob
would love to see what the insurance premiums would be quoted as for someone in that situation...
