Is it as daunting as it sounds?
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
I apologise - No, I didn't see that - but i have now
There is sooo much info there too - its awesome
Thanks again to those who helped me
There is sooo much info there too - its awesome
Thanks again to those who helped me
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by Chrisw1968
Sorry, forgot to ask also - can i just swap my British drivers licence for an American (IA) one? or do i need to retake driving tests etc?
Thanks again
Thanks again
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by bobkatz
You must work for Immigration.
I'll use the other door in future
I'll use the other door in future
I don't know why you snapped at Elfman. He only pointed out that you are more likely to get actionable answers in the Marriage based immigration forum.
Not saying that the answers from people here have not been sensible, just that they are more anectotal rather than giving you the step-by-step outline of what you need to do, and the potential 'issues' that could arise. The other forum also includes a very useful FAQs.
I would also suggest you look at the 'How to live and work in the US' article (not sure of precise title, but it's something like that; very useful).
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by Chrisw1968
Sorry, forgot to ask also - can i just swap my British drivers licence for an American (IA) one? or do i need to retake driving tests etc?
Thanks again
Thanks again
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
It wasn't meant to be a pop at Elfman.
It was just a cynical observation on Immigration.
Maybe Chris will fare better with the process than I did.... LOL..
Having jumped every hurdle including the finale at Grosvenor Square on a sweltering hot day of heightened security, a packed waiting room, broken air conditioning and an inaudible tannoy ... Weeks later I proudly arrived at USA airport Immigration clutching my big brown envelope which I can not open or I'll be shot and my rolled up Xray from the good doctor.
Welcomed to America my papers were processed and my hand was shaken.
All done you think....LOL. Immigration stamped my entry visa in my passport but not the paperwork... It is still not resolved.. Everytime I go through US Immigration (and I travel a lot ) I am told my UK passport is registered as stolen on the computer and have to go through the same round of questioning.
One day I will show them my birthmark...LOL
Bobkatz
[QUOTE=Elvira]I don't know why you snapped at Elfman. He only pointed out that you are more likely to get actionable answers in the Marriage based immigration forum.
It was just a cynical observation on Immigration.
Maybe Chris will fare better with the process than I did.... LOL..
Having jumped every hurdle including the finale at Grosvenor Square on a sweltering hot day of heightened security, a packed waiting room, broken air conditioning and an inaudible tannoy ... Weeks later I proudly arrived at USA airport Immigration clutching my big brown envelope which I can not open or I'll be shot and my rolled up Xray from the good doctor.
Welcomed to America my papers were processed and my hand was shaken.
All done you think....LOL. Immigration stamped my entry visa in my passport but not the paperwork... It is still not resolved.. Everytime I go through US Immigration (and I travel a lot ) I am told my UK passport is registered as stolen on the computer and have to go through the same round of questioning.
One day I will show them my birthmark...LOL
Bobkatz
[QUOTE=Elvira]I don't know why you snapped at Elfman. He only pointed out that you are more likely to get actionable answers in the Marriage based immigration forum.
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
[QUOTE=bobkatz]It wasn't meant to be a pop at Elfman.
It was just a cynical observation on Immigration.
Maybe Chris will fare better with the process than I did.... LOL..
Having jumped every hurdle including the finale at Grosvenor Square on a sweltering hot day of heightened security, a packed waiting room, broken air conditioning and an inaudible tannoy ... Weeks later I proudly arrived at USA airport Immigration clutching my big brown envelope which I can not open or I'll be shot and my rolled up Xray from the good doctor.
Welcomed to America my papers were processed and my hand was shaken.
All done you think....LOL. Immigration stamped my entry visa in my passport but not the paperwork... It is still not resolved.. Everytime I go through US Immigration (and I travel a lot ) I am told my UK passport is registered as stolen on the computer and have to go through the same round of questioning.
One day I will show them my birthmark...LOL
Bobkatz
Before you make any snap decision to go to the US and get married- you should go to the Marriage Based and do a search on "10 foot pole". It seems that if one goes to the USA with no preconceived plan to marry, and does- they are in quite a different legal class than those who go to the USA planning on marrying and then staying to adjust their visa status (which is not legal). If you read thru the many posts in the Marriage based, you will learn much about the various options open to you- K-1, K-3 DCF, etc etc. Read all you can for a few days, and you will be better versed in the legal jungle of visas, driver's liscenses, social security caerd, advance parole, adjustment of status, employment authorisation documents...
It was just a cynical observation on Immigration.
Maybe Chris will fare better with the process than I did.... LOL..
Having jumped every hurdle including the finale at Grosvenor Square on a sweltering hot day of heightened security, a packed waiting room, broken air conditioning and an inaudible tannoy ... Weeks later I proudly arrived at USA airport Immigration clutching my big brown envelope which I can not open or I'll be shot and my rolled up Xray from the good doctor.
Welcomed to America my papers were processed and my hand was shaken.
All done you think....LOL. Immigration stamped my entry visa in my passport but not the paperwork... It is still not resolved.. Everytime I go through US Immigration (and I travel a lot ) I am told my UK passport is registered as stolen on the computer and have to go through the same round of questioning.
One day I will show them my birthmark...LOL
Bobkatz
Originally Posted by Elvira
I don't know why you snapped at Elfman. He only pointed out that you are more likely to get actionable answers in the Marriage based immigration forum.
Before you make any snap decision to go to the US and get married- you should go to the Marriage Based and do a search on "10 foot pole". It seems that if one goes to the USA with no preconceived plan to marry, and does- they are in quite a different legal class than those who go to the USA planning on marrying and then staying to adjust their visa status (which is not legal). If you read thru the many posts in the Marriage based, you will learn much about the various options open to you- K-1, K-3 DCF, etc etc. Read all you can for a few days, and you will be better versed in the legal jungle of visas, driver's liscenses, social security caerd, advance parole, adjustment of status, employment authorisation documents...
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
What is most important to you? Getting married to your fiance or living in the USA?
If you just want to get married and live together, what you can do is what me (UKC) and my wife(USC) did. We got married here in the USA whilst I was on a Visa Waiver and then went to New York to get her UK immigration visa. We did check with immigration and like people have said, there are no issues with getting married on a Visa Waiver if you DO NOT have intent to stay in the USA.
For the UK visa there was no appointment needed, no waiting list. You will need proof of your ability to support your wife in the UK without recourse to public funds. I think the whole process ( from start to finish) took 45 minutes at the consulate in New York ( and this was one month after 9/11).
You can then do the US immigration visa from the UK. It might take a while but it is legal and will get you living together sooner.
Before you make any snap decision to go to the US and get married- you should go to the Marriage Based and do a search on "10 foot pole". It seems that if one goes to the USA with no preconceived plan to marry, and does- they are in quite a different legal class than those who go to the USA planning on marrying and then staying to adjust their visa status (which is not legal). If you read thru the many posts in the Marriage based, you will learn much about the various options open to you- K-1, K-3 DCF, etc etc. Read all you can for a few days, and you will be better versed in the legal jungle of visas, driver's liscenses, social security caerd, advance parole, adjustment of status, employment authorisation documents...
If you just want to get married and live together, what you can do is what me (UKC) and my wife(USC) did. We got married here in the USA whilst I was on a Visa Waiver and then went to New York to get her UK immigration visa. We did check with immigration and like people have said, there are no issues with getting married on a Visa Waiver if you DO NOT have intent to stay in the USA.
For the UK visa there was no appointment needed, no waiting list. You will need proof of your ability to support your wife in the UK without recourse to public funds. I think the whole process ( from start to finish) took 45 minutes at the consulate in New York ( and this was one month after 9/11).
You can then do the US immigration visa from the UK. It might take a while but it is legal and will get you living together sooner.
Originally Posted by ironporer
Before you make any snap decision to go to the US and get married- you should go to the Marriage Based and do a search on "10 foot pole". It seems that if one goes to the USA with no preconceived plan to marry, and does- they are in quite a different legal class than those who go to the USA planning on marrying and then staying to adjust their visa status (which is not legal). If you read thru the many posts in the Marriage based, you will learn much about the various options open to you- K-1, K-3 DCF, etc etc. Read all you can for a few days, and you will be better versed in the legal jungle of visas, driver's liscenses, social security caerd, advance parole, adjustment of status, employment authorisation documents...
#23
Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by dan_alford
For the UK visa there was no appointment needed, no waiting list. You will need proof of your ability to support your wife in the UK without recourse to public funds. I think the whole process ( from start to finish) took 45 minutes at the consulate in New York ( and this was one month after 9/11).
If UK immigration is an option I would suggest looking at britainusa.com for more indepth details.
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Ahh thanks for the update FlyergirlUK . Still is a damned sight quicker than US immigration, if it is an option.
Originally Posted by FlyergirlUK
You do need an appointment now. However, it took my Hubby five days, from submitting his documents, to get his visa by post.
If UK immigration is an option I would suggest looking at britainusa.com for more indepth details.
If UK immigration is an option I would suggest looking at britainusa.com for more indepth details.
#25
Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
[QUOTE=bobkatz]It wasn't meant to be a pop at Elfman.
It was just a cynical observation on Immigration.
Maybe Chris will fare better with the process than I did.... LOL..
Having jumped every hurdle including the finale at Grosvenor Square on a sweltering hot day of heightened security, a packed waiting room, broken air conditioning and an inaudible tannoy ... Weeks later I proudly arrived at USA airport Immigration clutching my big brown envelope which I can not open or I'll be shot and my rolled up Xray from the good doctor.
Welcomed to America my papers were processed and my hand was shaken.
All done you think....LOL. Immigration stamped my entry visa in my passport but not the paperwork... It is still not resolved.. Everytime I go through US Immigration (and I travel a lot ) I am told my UK passport is registered as stolen on the computer and have to go through the same round of questioning.
One day I will show them my birthmark...LOL
Bobkatz
If you think that was an ordeal pray that you never have to go to the USCIS offices in Newark, NJ. :scared:
It was just a cynical observation on Immigration.
Maybe Chris will fare better with the process than I did.... LOL..
Having jumped every hurdle including the finale at Grosvenor Square on a sweltering hot day of heightened security, a packed waiting room, broken air conditioning and an inaudible tannoy ... Weeks later I proudly arrived at USA airport Immigration clutching my big brown envelope which I can not open or I'll be shot and my rolled up Xray from the good doctor.
Welcomed to America my papers were processed and my hand was shaken.
All done you think....LOL. Immigration stamped my entry visa in my passport but not the paperwork... It is still not resolved.. Everytime I go through US Immigration (and I travel a lot ) I am told my UK passport is registered as stolen on the computer and have to go through the same round of questioning.
One day I will show them my birthmark...LOL
Bobkatz
If you think that was an ordeal pray that you never have to go to the USCIS offices in Newark, NJ. :scared:
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by Chrisw1968
Hi Everyone - Great Site You Have Here
My current position is that I am British, living in Britain - my home here is on the market and I intend to marry my American girlfriend and live in the USA.
I have been there 6 times in the last 15 months, but always on a tourist visa - would we be able to marry over there if i was there on a tourist visa? or would i need to go to the U.S Embassy here and get a fiance visa?
Another thing that we are considering is getting Married in a different country (either Malta or the Caribbean somewhere) - would this make it easier?
If we got married abroad, would i then still use the visa waiver programme to get into America - and then sort out the permanent arrangements and legalities when I get there?
I really would be grateful for ANY advice that you good folks could give me - have a great day (see, its rubbing off on me already lolol)
My current position is that I am British, living in Britain - my home here is on the market and I intend to marry my American girlfriend and live in the USA.
I have been there 6 times in the last 15 months, but always on a tourist visa - would we be able to marry over there if i was there on a tourist visa? or would i need to go to the U.S Embassy here and get a fiance visa?
Another thing that we are considering is getting Married in a different country (either Malta or the Caribbean somewhere) - would this make it easier?
If we got married abroad, would i then still use the visa waiver programme to get into America - and then sort out the permanent arrangements and legalities when I get there?
I really would be grateful for ANY advice that you good folks could give me - have a great day (see, its rubbing off on me already lolol)
We got married in Florida, I went home to sell up my property in the UK, which took several vists home, then simply came here and stayed. I waited 6 months before before putting in the immigration papers, but that was no problem. I got my work authorisation card a few weeks later, and have'nt looked back.
Never tell Immigration you are coming here to settle, you are merely here on vacation or visiting your girlfriend. Then put in the paper work. Its a little risky, but I never employed a lawyer, Carol and I did it all on our own.
Check the USCIS website for the forms you will need, there are about 4 or 5, with the Medical Form. You will need to put your Work Authorisation Card application and your Adjustment of Status Forms in together, with your other forms. Your wife has to fill in a form too which promises to support you during your time in the states.
Check out the USCIS site for adjustment of status cases.
Good Luck if you decide to do it this way.
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
Never tell Immigration you are coming here to settle, you are merely here on vacation or visiting your girlfriend. Then put in the paper work. Its a little risky, but I never employed a lawyer, Carol and I did it all on our own.
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Just because you got lucky doesn't mean anyone else will be.
Why set yourself up for potential SOL if it can be avoided?
My tuppence, as they say...
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by Elvira
If you don't mind my saying so, your 'advice' is extremely irresponsible.
Just because you got lucky doesn't mean anyone else will be.
Why set yourself up for potential SOL if it can be avoided?
My tuppence, as they say...
Just because you got lucky doesn't mean anyone else will be.
Why set yourself up for potential SOL if it can be avoided?
My tuppence, as they say...
#29
Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
We got married in Florida, I went home to sell up my property in the UK, which took several vists home, then simply came here and stayed. I waited 6 months before before putting in the immigration papers, but that was no problem. I got my work authorisation card a few weeks later, and have'nt looked back.
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
...I never intended doing it that way, it just happened.
Life just 'happens', immigration is planned.
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Re: Is it as daunting as it sounds?
Originally Posted by Elvira
If you don't mind my saying so, your 'advice' is extremely irresponsible.
Just because you got lucky doesn't mean anyone else will be.
Why set yourself up for potential SOL if it can be avoided?
My tuppence, as they say...
Just because you got lucky doesn't mean anyone else will be.
Why set yourself up for potential SOL if it can be avoided?
My tuppence, as they say...
Actually thinking back, just before Carol and I got married, she called USCIS for advice on what I could do since I was already in the states, and she did'nt want me to leave.
The girl she spoke to on the USCIS customer call line just told Carol to tell me to simply stay. She gave Carol all the details about Adjustment of Status, what forms we needed, and how to complete them and send them in.
So USCIS told Carol to tell me to stay.