Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > USA
Reload this Page >

Culturally switched sides

Culturally switched sides

Old Oct 12th 2011, 5:56 pm
  #1  
Peace onion
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 5,686
Octang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond repute
Default Culturally switched sides

'Been here 15 years. I think I have come to identify more as a Merkan, than a Brit.
'Was listening to Five Live and they were having a debate about taking leftovers from a restaurant. They used the term "doggy-bag" instead of a box.

I'd say 3/4 of the callers and guests' sentiment was that taking leftovers is uncouth, and embarrassing. I just don't get it. You paid for the meal, and is it better to just throw the leftovers in the trash? And they lecture us on waste...

And I also thought they (especially the callers) sounded rather unworldly.
I guess being around Mexican, Thai, Mongolian, Italian, Indian, Middle Eastern, Korean restaurants broadens one's outlook. That may sound a bit snobbish, but hearing some Yorkshireman repeatedly call pizza "pitzer" and describing it as "dough with bits" made me face-palm a little.

Last edited by Octang Frye; Oct 12th 2011 at 6:00 pm.
Octang Frye is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 6:56 pm
  #2  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: London
Posts: 1,248
Marocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond reputeMarocco has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Oddly enough, the first place where I saw someone take leftovers home in a box was at a Pizza Hut in Yorkshire, 20+ years ago.
Marocco is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 8:12 pm
  #3  
Chocoholic !
 
ChocolateBabz's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Houston, TX - Officially Not Shit since 2009
Posts: 2,315
ChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond reputeChocolateBabz has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Here in Houston it seems to be the norm to take your leftovers home. I do if I think someone will actually eat them, otherwise it's just a waste of a polystyrene box and a bag.

Recently hubby has had quite a few 'business' dinners but to make up for it he brings me home dessert .
ChocolateBabz is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 8:18 pm
  #4  
Concierge
 
Rete's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 43,736
Rete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Its the norm here in the 'burbs of NYC. Also ask for a doggy bag for my leftovers.

Believe the people who called in to the show were trying to protray themselves as something they aren't. But then again, don't think you get many doggy bags at Mickey D's and Red Lobster.
PS it's called a doggy bag because it once was packed in a bag.
Rete is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 8:26 pm
  #5  
Fair and balanced
 
kimilseung's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: WA
Posts: 14,252
kimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond reputekimilseung has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Originally Posted by Octang Frye View Post
'Been here 15 years. I think I have come to identify more as a Merkan, than a Brit.
'Was listening to Five Live and they were having a debate about taking leftovers from a restaurant. They used the term "doggy-bag" instead of a box.

I'd say 3/4 of the callers and guests' sentiment was that taking leftovers is uncouth, and embarrassing. I just don't get it. You paid for the meal, and is it better to just throw the leftovers in the trash? And they lecture us on waste...
I listened to the same segment, and had similar reaction to yours. Overall it came across that the Brits are just too snobby, and prefer to waste and too concerned with how it would be seen by others.

Originally Posted by Octang Frye View Post
Mongolian......restaurants
Mongolia is the only country where I found eating actually to be a problem, where I had to go door to door asking to be fed, so I always find it odd to see Mongolian and restaurant in the same sentence.

Originally Posted by Octang Frye View Post
And I also thought they (especially the callers) sounded rather unworldly.
I guess being around Mexican, Thai, Mongolian, Italian, Indian, Middle Eastern, Korean restaurants broadens one's outlook. That may sound a bit snobbish, but hearing some Yorkshireman repeatedly call pizza "pitzer" and describing it as "dough with bits" made me face-palm a little.
I am not quite with you here, isn't pizza just dough with bits, and what is the correct pronunciation? With the exceptions of Mongolian (thank god) and Korean (I had to travel 35 miles for Korean in UK) those nationalities cuisine is easy to get in the UK

Last edited by kimilseung; Oct 12th 2011 at 8:29 pm.
kimilseung is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 8:30 pm
  #6  
Heading for Poppyland
 
robin1234's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: North Norfolk and northern New York State
Posts: 11,096
robin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond reputerobin1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

I saw the thread title and the author.. thought it was going to be a tortured soul-searching, admitting he'd become a liberal.
robin1234 is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 8:42 pm
  #7  
Peace onion
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 5,686
Octang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond reputeOctang Frye has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

LOL. I've always been socially liberal, Robin.

Maybe it's like that in the bigger towns in the UK, Kim, but it wasn't like that in Dorset when I was there.

To me, it came across as they were still worried about "making a scene".
Which is why customer service is terrible in the UK.

And what chafed to me was his pronunciation of a global word. Pitzer. Pitzer! Please...
Octang Frye is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 9:03 pm
  #8  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 4,759
GeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Should point out that portion sizes in the UK tend to be a lot smaller, so the need for doggy bags is less, thus perhaps it is more of a stigma to ask for them. The wife and I eat out quite a bit (according to the hole in my pocket) but it's been months since I last asked for a doggy bag, and yet we always keep leftovers when cooking at home so it's not as if we're embarrassed to have leftovers.

I'm more worried about what happens to the food between leaving your table on a plate and arriving in a plastic box or bag. Some actually bring containers to your table but that can be considered a bit uncouth in itself.
GeoffM is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 9:31 pm
  #9  
Senior Member
 
penguinbar's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 2,913
penguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

In NYC it's perfectly normal. I have noticed that outside NYC when I've asked for my food to be wrapped up a often box is brought to the table. Where I work and most other places I frequent it is taken to the back and packaged up. I think it depends on where you are from whether or not it's called boxed up or a doggy bag. I've been in the restaurant business a long time and I think it's is perfectly acceptable.
penguinbar is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 9:44 pm
  #10  
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 1,352
avanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond reputeavanutria has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

It's normal in all the US places I've lived, which is about seven different states. Some servers, upon seeing that you have finished eating but still have food on your plate, will offer to bring you a box for the remainder without your even having to ask. I know many people who approach eating out as getting two meals out of the one purchase, which makes it a more affordable thing to do.

I haven't heard anyone call it a doggy bag for years, though. Mostly it's "would you like a box for that?" or "may I box that up for you?", something along those lines.
avanutria is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 9:53 pm
  #11  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,518
Sally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond reputeSally Redux has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Originally Posted by robin1234 View Post
I saw the thread title and the author.. thought it was going to be a tortured soul-searching, admitting he'd become a liberal.
Snap
Originally Posted by avanutria View Post
It's normal in all the US places I've lived, which is about seven different states. Some servers, upon seeing that you have finished eating but still have food on your plate, will offer to bring you a box for the remainder without your even having to ask. I know many people who approach eating out as getting two meals out of the one purchase, which makes it a more affordable thing to do.

I haven't heard anyone call it a doggy bag for years, though. Mostly it's "would you like a box for that?" or "may I box that up for you?", something along those lines.
They're usually trying to get you out as fast as possible, they'd probably love to box it up before even bringing the plate to you.
Sally Redux is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 9:56 pm
  #12  
I'm off to find a spanner
 
sime303's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Maine
Posts: 2,867
sime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

My parents are here for a couple of weeks, so I just asked my mother why they don't take home the left over food from reataurants and her reply was

"a lot of places don't like you doing it because of health and safety reasons and the restaurants can't guarantee you heat it up properly when you get home and could possibly get food poisoning"

She used to be a chef so I guess she would have a decent idea.
sime303 is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 10:01 pm
  #13  
Senior Member
 
penguinbar's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 2,913
penguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond reputepenguinbar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Originally Posted by sime303 View Post
My parents are here for a couple of weeks, so I just asked my mother why they don't take home the left over food from reataurants and her reply was

"a lot of places don't like you doing it because of health and safety reasons and the restaurants can't guarantee you heat it up properly when you get home and could possibly get food poisoning"

She used to be a chef so I guess she would have a decent idea.
If the food has already been cooked and stored properly you won't get food poisoning by heating it up.
penguinbar is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 10:06 pm
  #14  
I'm off to find a spanner
 
sime303's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Maine
Posts: 2,867
sime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond reputesime303 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Originally Posted by penguinbar View Post
If the food has already been cooked and stored properly you won't get food poisoning by heating it up.
They are worried you may not store it correctly. If stored at room temperature and under heated salmonella and listeria can become a real problem. Rice being the worst offender.
sime303 is offline  
Old Oct 12th 2011, 10:12 pm
  #15  
Queen of my house
 
tamms_1965's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,043
tamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond reputetamms_1965 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Culturally switched sides

Listen to this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpUn9...=1&safe=active

Originally Posted by Marocco View Post
Oddly enough, the first place where I saw someone take leftovers home in a box was at a Pizza Hut in Yorkshire, 20+ years ago.
tamms_1965 is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.