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StephieFaith83 Aug 31st 2010 3:49 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 
No idea about Florida, but it's pretty bad where I live. Buffalo, NY.

Shootings happen on an almost daily basis.

British Consul Aug 31st 2010 12:46 pm

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 
There are many factors to consider here, but did you know that the British Consulate in Orlando is either number 1 or 2, year on year, for the number of arrests of British nationals out of all of the British diplomatic missions globally?

We cover all of Florida.

Dean

meauxna Aug 31st 2010 12:49 pm

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 
So the British nationals are the ones responsible for the uptick in Florida's crime rate? :eek:
:P

Jerseygirl Aug 31st 2010 12:55 pm

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 8817499)
So the British nationals are the ones responsible for the uptick in Florida's crime rate? :eek:
:P

When I fly back to the US I'm in Manchester Airport early morning...you wouldn't believe the amount of people drinking alcohol at 7 am. They are usually getting on flights to Spain or Florida. There's a sub culture of Brits who have to get 'bladdered' to enjoy their holiday...this continues at their destination. :o

To nicky_b...from what I've seen in my 14 yrs living in the US is that crime is usually localised. Stay and live in 'good areas' and you see little crime. Unlike the UK where crime is throughout. IMO this is due to property taxes...live in a good area and you're paying top dollar for property taxes but there is a good police presence...paid in property tax dollars. I feel far safer in the areas I frequent in New Jersey than I do in Cheshire.

callowman Aug 31st 2010 11:38 pm

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by British Consul (Post 8817489)
There are many factors to consider here, but did you know that the British Consulate in Orlando is either number 1 or 2, year on year, for the number of arrests of British nationals out of all of the British diplomatic missions globally?

We cover all of Florida.

Dean

Since it became as cheap to come here as it is to go to Benidorm and Ibiza etc IM not surprised :-)

Just Jenney Sep 1st 2010 5:28 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 
Given that Florida is about 15k square miles larger than the whole of England, it's unrealistic to ascertain whether crime is "bad" or "not so bad" there. It mostly depends on where in Florida, just like it depends on where in England, etc.

Your best bet is to narrow down your list of preferred cities/suburbs and look up their crime statistics individually.

~ Jenney

Dan725 Sep 2nd 2010 3:37 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by British Consul (Post 8817489)
There are many factors to consider here, but did you know that the British Consulate in Orlando is either number 1 or 2, year on year, for the number of arrests of British nationals out of all of the British diplomatic missions globally?

We cover all of Florida.

Dean


Originally Posted by callowman (Post 8818406)
Since it became as cheap to come here as it is to go to Benidorm and Ibiza etc IM not surprised :-)

LOL, beat me to it - Orlando is US version of the "Club Med" packages.....I imagine a lot of those arrests are boozed up, sunburned chavs (wearing the regulation football shirts and Capri pants) duking it out with each other! ;) :)

CelticRover Sep 2nd 2010 4:16 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by British Consul (Post 8817489)
There are many factors to consider here, but did you know that the British Consulate in Orlando is either number 1 or 2, year on year, for the number of arrests of British nationals out of all of the British diplomatic missions globally?

We cover all of Florida.

Dean


Did it break down the Scots:English ratio or is it all the same these days?;)

British Consul Sep 4th 2010 2:13 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by CelticRover (Post 8821543)
Did it break down the Scots:English ratio or is it all the same these days?;)

:)

goldenstate31 Sep 4th 2010 6:05 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 
again, i think its not a wide scale problem in each state but confined to 'areas' within each state. I would also check out city data forum for a broader perspective on certain areas etc etc.
I think in the states, where the 'good mostly grade A schools' are, would normally be the areas to consider a move to:unsure:
Although folks that already live in the states, will know this for sure:)

Manc Sep 4th 2010 7:25 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by nicky_b (Post 8812993)
but with 2 children its not just ourselves to think of.

so why bother with the E2 then?

Love to hear from you.

goldenstate31 Sep 4th 2010 9:32 pm

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 8826400)
so why bother with the E2 then?

Love to hear from you.

yep i second that, E2 = not advisable with children. Go on a different visa or consider a move elsewhere. ;)

igotheesta Sep 4th 2010 11:34 pm

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by Dan725 (Post 8821460)
LOL, beat me to it - Orlando is US version of the "Club Med" packages.....I imagine a lot of those arrests are boozed up, sunburned chavs (wearing the regulation football shirts and Capri pants) duking it out with each other! ;) :)

I find that unlikely if English people were behaving like that in Orlando then it is highly likely we would have been booted off the Visa Waiver Program long ago. American authories wouldn't take a 10th of what they have taken off us in Greece and Ibiza and Spain and Portugal. I think we woud be done in the states if we did even a 10th of that stuff over there, We would be off the visa waiver program, probably stronger crackdowns on english teenagers and maybe no petty offence exemptions either? They would probably want drug and alochol testing on all brits or at least between the ages of 18 and 45 or 18 and 55 and you can't do that at an immigration checkpoint you would have to enforce visa applications to do that.

The majority of the arrests are probably around people living over there it is the largest english grouping in the states isn't it? that will account for the majority of the arrests, drunk driving and thefts domestic abuse?

ian-mstm Sep 5th 2010 3:31 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by igotheesta (Post 8827387)
I find that unlikely if English people were behaving like that in Orlando then it is highly likely we would have been booted off the Visa Waiver Program long ago.

What? Don't be ridiculous. Participation in the VWP has almost nothing to do with resultant behavior in the US... it has to do with general immigration patterns from the originating country.

Ian

Ray Sep 5th 2010 3:37 am

Re: is crime in florida, really that bad?
 

Originally Posted by igotheesta (Post 8827387)
I find that unlikely if English people were behaving like that in Orlando then it is highly likely we would have been booted off the Visa Waiver Program long ago. American authories wouldn't take a 10th of what they have taken off us in Greece and Ibiza and Spain and Portugal. I think we woud be done in the states if we did even a 10th of that stuff over there, We would be off the visa waiver program, probably stronger crackdowns on english teenagers and maybe no petty offence exemptions either? They would probably want drug and alochol testing on all brits or at least between the ages of 18 and 45 or 18 and 55 and you can't do that at an immigration checkpoint you would have to enforce visa applications to do that.

The majority of the arrests are probably around people living over there it is the largest english grouping in the states isn't it? that will account for the majority of the arrests, drunk driving and thefts domestic abuse?

You dont live in florida do you ....


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