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Former Lancastrian Sep 12th 2020 2:52 pm

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Originally Posted by jammiie (Post 12909080)
Aren’t the likes of Virgin and BA chomping at the bit to fly here properly again?

Not with empty planes :lol:

JonB 47 Sep 12th 2020 3:58 pm

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hope that means Virgin will fly more from Manchester, as when I finally get to move I want to get to Pensacola which normally would be Manchester - Atlanta - Pensacola but at minute all that shows is Manchester to either Paris or Amsterdam - Atlanta - Pensacola, otherwise I will have to fly from London

penguinsix Sep 13th 2020 3:52 pm

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EU, UK, Ireland, China Travel ban to be lifted Monday:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-insp...2020-20371.pdf

penguinsix Sep 13th 2020 3:58 pm

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Originally Posted by penguinsix (Post 12909455)
EU, UK, Ireland, China Travel ban to be lifted Monday:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-insp...2020-20371.pdf


https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-have-recently

"The Secretary has decided to terminate these arrival restrictions. These restrictions funnel eligible arriving air passengers to one of 15 designated airports of entry where the USG has focused public health resources in order to conduct enhanced entry screening. Terminating this effort will allow public health resources to be more effectively reprioritized for other containment and mitigation efforts and will stimulate air travel. Continuing activities will include an illness reporting system and a passenger education process carried out in tandem with other enhanced public health measures implemented within the passenger air transportation system in collaboration with industry. This notice does not affect those other public health measures, which will remain in place as long as appropriate. Appropriate traveler health education materials will continue to be made available to passengers arriving from foreign countries. Health education information will continue to be displayed at ports of entry."

Mercury39 Sep 13th 2020 4:08 pm

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Originally Posted by penguinsix (Post 12909455)
EU, UK, Ireland, China Travel ban to be lifted Monday:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-insp...2020-20371.pdf

Yup jammiie shared that yesterday - However, so far the conclusion it is doesn't lift the travel ban but make a change regarding flights from those countries, which can now arrived at any US airport, previously they have to arrive at one of 15 named airports. The various presidential proclamations appear to still be in place that suspended entry into the United States of aliens who were physically present in various countries in the previous 14 days.

andyrebell Sep 13th 2020 4:30 pm

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Originally Posted by penguinsix (Post 12909455)
EU, UK, Ireland, China Travel ban to be lifted Monday:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-insp...2020-20371.pdf

You mean the ban on CITIZENS of those countries entering on the ESTA/VWP has been lifted so BRITS/IRISH/EUROPEANS are allowed to travel again to America? Or is this just opening up of more airports for americans and green card/work visa holders? Sorry for the capital letters but I am just trying to get the emphasis of my question across against a sweeping statement.

postbox134 Sep 13th 2020 4:45 pm

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Looks like it's just the screening unfortunately, the below link is the only UK specific part mentioned in the above. Hopefully there's more to follow soon.

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-have-recently

andyrebell Sep 13th 2020 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by postbox134 (Post 12909470)
Looks like it's just the screening unfortunately, the below link is the only UK specific part mentioned in the above. Hopefully there's more to follow soon.

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-have-recently

So they will probably get rid of the visa waiver program then if the ban is not going to be lifted?.

postbox134 Sep 13th 2020 5:30 pm

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Just the phyiscal presence ban, ESTA/VWP/Visas still valid for those who are exempt and those who aren't physically present in UK/CTA/Schengen during the 14 days before entry.

Checked the exec order again, the president is the only one who can remove the entry ban...

Mercury39 Sep 13th 2020 5:53 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrebell (Post 12909479)
So they will probably get rid of the visa waiver program then if the ban is not going to be lifted?.

That's a huge conclusion to jump too, I don't see how it at all suggests that they will get rid of the visa waiver program.

andyrebell Sep 13th 2020 6:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Mercury39 (Post 12909497)
That's a huge conclusion to jump too, I don't see how it at all suggests that they will get rid of the visa waiver program.

How else will they confirm vaccination of travellers at least for a while until this really goes away? I don't see them simply taking your word for it and a vaccination certificate could be forged. And it would take far too long to test everyone at the border. The delays would be hours long.

And I don't understand what this news update changes? The majority of the persons are still banned?. And people exempt will still have to quarantine upon arrival?

postbox134 Sep 13th 2020 6:22 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrebell (Post 12909501)
How else will they confirm vaccination of travellers at least for a while until this really goes away? I don't see them simply taking your word for it and a vaccination certificate could be forged. And it would take far too long to test everyone at the border. The delays would be hours long.

And I don't understand what this news update changes? The majority of the persons are still banned?. And people exempt will still have to quarantine upon arrival?

No need to cancel visas or ESTAs, the current ban is purely on where you've recently been physically located. Although it doesn't make so much sense now considering the US is arguably in worse shape than the banned regions... The change in the above posts merely stops them funneling all these travels through a smaller number of airports. I imagine that was unsustainable practically with slowly increasing travel.

How can a vaccine certificate be required for entry when there's no vaccince available?

andyrebell Sep 13th 2020 8:54 pm

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Originally Posted by postbox134 (Post 12909505)
No need to cancel visas or ESTAs, the current ban is purely on where you've recently been physically located. Although it doesn't make so much sense now considering the US is arguably in worse shape than the banned regions... The change in the above posts merely stops them funneling all these travels through a smaller number of airports. I imagine that was unsustainable practically with slowly increasing travel.

How can a vaccine certificate be required for entry when there's no vaccince available?

Wouldn't bigger airports have more sense from the start? Better social distancing and all that?. By the time the borders are reopened to all travellers I suspect that will want some sort of proof of vaccination. Ok there are a few ways you can do it. Maybe at the airport of departure. They can assign the flight gate straight away and do the testing at the gate in the time after check in but before you board. Transmit the information to the CPB in flight with the advance passenger information. Backed up with a ten year ban or life ban for lying about being vaccinated if vaccination is required for entry. That could be one way.

retzie Sep 13th 2020 11:24 pm

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Originally Posted by postbox134 (Post 12909505)
How can a vaccine certificate be required for entry when there's no vaccince available?

You haven't met andyrebell before, have you? :sneaky:

Pontificating about what will happen 17 steps ahead is a complete waste of time, especially when we don't know what the very next step will be. This thread is supposed to be for practical information, so I'm going to suggest Andy keeps these theories in the Trailer Park threads where they belong.

andyrebell Sep 14th 2020 10:32 am

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Originally Posted by retzie (Post 12909617)
You haven't met andyrebell before, have you? :sneaky:

Pontificating about what will happen 17 steps ahead is a complete waste of time, especially when we don't know what the very next step will be. This thread is supposed to be for practical information, so I'm going to suggest Andy keeps these theories in the Trailer Park threads where they belong.

The next steps are self explanatory. The borders will remain closed until the vaccine hits the general public no matter who is in the white house. I would say that was pretty obvious. When they reopen the borders they will want some kind of proof of vaccination to admit the traveller?. I don't know how you would show that. I have never in my life been asked to show proof of vaccination. Though I have never travelled to a country that needed it to be fair. And medical records are protected in UK by European GDPR and the doctor patients rules. I doubt they will simply take your word for it.


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