Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
#91
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Again the problem is comparing like for like I guess (London vs Bay area or NYC). On the quality of life issue, a lot of my Generation (Y) in the UK seem to be stuck in a 'generation rent' style situation. Property ownership (in general) seems to be a lot more achievable here and that makes a big difference to quality of life; having a house you can change to how you want it and a couple of acres as a blank canvas. Moving back to the UK and having to massively downsize while paying massively more for a mortgage seems unthinkable - but you never know.
However my property tax in the US is a lot more than what I would be paying in the UK, it's almost like having a second mortgage.
#92
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
I have no idea why NJ and NY property taxes are so insanely high.
#93
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Sounds like the OP has 'lifestyle Envy'.. i.e. the grass is greener syndrome. He needs to really take a good look at what is important to him before he makes what could be a costly mistake.
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
Last edited by GeniB; Oct 6th 2016 at 6:10 pm.
#94
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Sounds like the OP has 'lifestyle Envy'.. i.e. the grass is greener syndrome. He needs to really take a good look at what is important to him before he makes what could be a costly mistake.
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
#95
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Er, yes it is. Lopez is only reachable by a 30 minute ferry, the restaurants there aren't cheap (captive audience and that), and if the cheapest wine you can get if $40 then you aren't in the most affordable ones anyway. Food is much more affordable in Anacortes.
#96
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
But property taxes aren't high across the board; every community has a different tax structure and mill rate. It's a fact of life that the property taxes are high in the communities with good schools and expensive houses where the executives live, much cheaper in the communities where the blue collar workers live and the schools leave a lot to be desired. For instance, commuter towns in Westchester County, adjacent to the city, will have far higher property taxes than a NYS town up near the Canadian border. Even Putnam County, just north of Westchester, is less expensive. Obviously it isn't fair when it comes to funding the schools, but that is why picking the right address is so important when deciding where to live in the US.
#97
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Sorry, I can't help you with NJ.
.... For instance, commuter towns in Westchester County, adjacent to the city, will have far higher property taxes than a NYS town up near the Canadian border. Even Putnam County, just north of Westchester, is less expensive. Obviously it isn't fair when it comes to funding the schools, but that is why picking the right address is so important when deciding where to live in the US.
Last edited by Pulaski; Oct 6th 2016 at 7:07 pm.
#98
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
I may be wrong, but I think in general property taxes in the US are higher than council tax for an average family home. This may have changed due to the weak pound.
#99
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Sounds like the OP has 'lifestyle Envy'.. i.e. the grass is greener syndrome. He needs to really take a good look at what is important to him before he makes what could be a costly mistake.
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
#100
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
I really liked Portugal when I went there for an extended holiday (5 weeks) - not sure I could live there though. It was certainly cheap compared to France and the people I met were really lovely. HATED the coffee. A thimble of something the spoon would stand up in. Each to their own.
#101
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Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Yeah, I got a $4 pourover the other weekend, but the whole three-minute process seemed rushed, and I don't think my barista had even waxed his mustache in the morning!
#102
Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
Sounds like the OP has 'lifestyle Envy'.. i.e. the grass is greener syndrome. He needs to really take a good look at what is important to him before he makes what could be a costly mistake.
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
You cannot compare salaries between the UK and the USA. you can compare lifestyles. What seems free and easy in the USA... Eating out for example costs an absolute fortune.. and is expected in many communities.. breakfast included- That styrofoam cup full of liquid the US calls coffee (I am comparing to Portugal here and not the UK) an every day item, costs 4dollars +. It's not usual to buy your breakfast in the UK,neither are you obliged to pay for your kids schooling if you don't wish too. I was just on Lopez Island WA... and could not get over how every simple meal out ended up being 100+ dollars.+ humungous tip( Don't even begin to add wine at 40 dollars a bottle) in the islands. Mainland not much different.. A college town sounds cutesy and Gilmore girls..but how far is it from other civilised areas.?. Many to me were sandwiched between very undesirable neighbourhoods..and they were always expensive.. Is the ability To walk in the neighbourhood important to you and your family? because you can forget that in many many places in the USA. The Uk is rich beyond measure in open spaces,parks, stately homes available to the public for free. The American writer Bill Bryson elogiese's over this in his many books on the delights of the UK. (he also went back to Hannover to give his kids a taste of his homeland.. soon hotfooted back though..just moved to a different area of the UK) so maybe you should give that a try first.. The UK is much much more than London and the South East... Try moving up to Manchester and living in Cheshire or the Lake District--(just about doable) You will get more for you money and be in lovely countryside...I would say it's worth a punt before you take the bigger leap. after all Trump is on the horizon...
#104
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On the UK and US he says
“I’m very happy to divide my time between the two countries,”...“But in a way it’s a curse because I can’t live in both simultaneously. In a perfect world, I might spend my afternoons in England and the evenings in America, so I can watch the Boston Red Sox on TV. My wife being English and me being American, we share an element of compromise.”
Think we all feel like that sometimes.
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Re: Cost of living/quality of life/best place for kids -- US vs UK
I don't know if it's more achievable in the US and again as you said depends on the area? I know plenty of people in the UK who can't afford a home but then again there are plenty living in tiny apartments in the US and are paying a lot more, or those who can't afford a home in the US. Then you have those who don't want to buy or live in a huge house and are happy to rent. I just had a quick search and found plenty of properties under 100K in the UK with large gardens. Even in Co Armagh you can find loads of houses with a garden for little money and you have two capitals that can be reached in an hour.