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Both Worlds May 20th 2012 2:44 am

Cost of living Florida
 
OK I am doing around the world best places to retire and Florida could be possible. If you can supply your expenses then I will post my costs here in the UK and the island of Tenerife- to compare if thats OK-
1. gas
2. Electricity
3. Council tax or rates
4. house insurance
5. water costs
6. food
7. car tax/disc
8. internet broadband + phone
9. car insurance
10.petrol

If you can think of anything else thats needs costing-such as prescriptions and health for instance.

fatbrit May 20th 2012 2:48 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071395)
OK I am doing around the world best places to retire and Florida could be possible. If you can supply your expenses then I will post my costs here in the UK and the island of Tenerife- to compare if thats OK-
1. gas
2. Electricity
3. Council tax or rates
4. house insurance
5. water costs
6. food
7. car tax/disc
8. internet broadband + phone
9. car insurance
10.petrol

If you can think of anything else thats needs costing-such as prescriptions and health for instance.

Question is moot -- only USCs and US PRs can retire to Florida.

Duncan Roberts May 20th 2012 2:52 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
How are you planning to retire in FL? There is no visa to do that so you would need some other way in (family sponsorship, investment, buy a business, type of stuff) and that could make quite a big difference in various costs. Health insurance alone could run you $12,000+ a year (the plus could theoretically be double or triple) and depending on the cover and your health you could potentially spend that or more per year in costs.

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 2:54 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 10071399)
Question is moot -- only USCs and US PRs can retire to Florida.

Yes I understand that-My sister is american but living in australia so I dont know if thats a way to do it-or work 1st then claim greencard etc

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 2:56 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
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Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071407)
Yes I understand that-My sister is american but living in australia so I dont know if thats a way to do it-or work 1st then claim greencard etc

In that case it's a no go.

To work in the US you need a visa...here is a list of ways to obtain a one. If you can fit into any of the categories you may be able to get a visa to live and work in the US.

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 2:58 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10071411)
In that case it's a no go.

what about claim by brother/sibling? Probably 10 years but I thought it was possible plus grew up in California for 8 years and my parents for 9-10 years.

fatbrit May 20th 2012 3:02 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071407)
Yes I understand that-My sister is american but living in australia so I dont know if thats a way to do it-or work 1st then claim greencard etc

If your sister is planning to return to the US, she can sponsor you. It'll take a dozen years or so before you get your visa -- it's a long line.

After you arrive a dozen or more years down the line, your first illness will bankrupt you.

As I said, the question is moot.

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 3:02 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071416)
what about claim by brother/sibling? Probably 10 years but I thought it was possible plus grew up in California for 8 years and my parents for 9-10 years.

You are correct but they have to live in the US. The years you and your parents spent in the US don't give you an advantage...unless you were born in the US or naturalised.

fatbrit May 20th 2012 3:03 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071416)
what about claim by brother/sibling? Probably 10 years but I thought it was possible plus grew up in California for 8 years and my parents for 9-10 years.


Worth checking you're not already a citizen. Did your parents naturalize?

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 3:07 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 10071423)
Worth checking you're not already a citizen. Did your parents naturalize?

You never know I know I was christianed in the "glass church" in California! I will ask.

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 3:23 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071427)
You never know I know I was christianed in the "glass church" in California! I will ask.

Your place of birth is what matters.

fatbrit May 20th 2012 3:24 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10071439)
Your place of birth is what matters.

If his parents naturalized while he was a child, he may have become a citizen without knowing.

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 3:24 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 10071440)
If his parents naturalized while he was a child, he may have become a citizen without knowing.

True.

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 12:09 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10071441)
True.

I will check.... Meanwhile could people put up there expenses if thats OK-I will then compare to : UK, Tenerife (Spain), Australia and Malaysia.
cheers
:nod:

ian-mstm May 20th 2012 1:01 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072025)
Meanwhile could people put up there expenses if thats OK-I will then compare to : UK, Tenerife (Spain), Australia and Malaysia.

You go first... otherwise it's a complete waste of time!

Ian

Boiler May 20th 2012 3:35 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072025)
I will check.... Meanwhile could people put up there expenses if thats OK-I will then compare to : UK, Tenerife (Spain), Australia and Malaysia.
cheers
:nod:

So in 10 years time say GBP20,000 for Medical.

What else do you want to know?

Flabound oneday May 20th 2012 3:56 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
1. gas nil- dont have it down here
2. Electricity- min just over $100 a month, max $200pm with a/c and pool heater both going. ave $150pm
3. Council tax or rates $2800 pa
4. house insurance $1200pa inc contents plus flood ins $420pa
5. water costs $80-100 pm depending if i top pool up
6. food - we spend for 2 adults 150-200 a week, but we eat decent food not sh1te fast food.you could live on less. salads and veggies are expensive. that includes wine
7. car tax/disc- cant recall but its peanuts
8. internet broadband + phone...int 30pm, home phone 30pm, cell phones 2 lines 80pm
9. car insurance about 8/900 pa per car thats 3rd party f&t
10.petrol depends we both use ours for work so I reckon 80 a week


mortgage ? we spend 620 pm in the Uk we rented for £1150pm so big saving
health ins. thru the mrs work we pay $360pm


i reckoned our outgoings are about 2800 a month. thats before 'spending/clothes/luxuries etc'
in the Uk it was 3500 but in £s

but the mrs earns twice as much here as she did in the UK
my money is pretty similar but it all goes back into the business
much better off here,

goldenstate31 May 20th 2012 4:07 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Flabound oneday (Post 10072306)
much better off here,

I Agree. If your an employer (which I am, both here and in the US) but your NOT better off if your an employee!;)

fatbrit May 20th 2012 4:24 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Flabound oneday (Post 10072306)
1. gas nil- dont have it down here
2. Electricity- min just over $100 a month, max $200pm with a/c and pool heater both going. ave $150pm
3. Council tax or rates $2800 pa
4. house insurance $1200pa inc contents plus flood ins $420pa
5. water costs $80-100 pm depending if i top pool up
6. food - we spend for 2 adults 150-200 a week, but we eat decent food not sh1te fast food.you could live on less. salads and veggies are expensive. that includes wine
7. car tax/disc- cant recall but its peanuts
8. internet broadband + phone...int 30pm, home phone 30pm, cell phones 2 lines 80pm
9. car insurance about 8/900 pa per car thats 3rd party f&t
10.petrol depends we both use ours for work so I reckon 80 a week


mortgage ? we spend 620 pm in the Uk we rented for £1150pm so big saving
health ins. thru the mrs work we pay $360pm


i reckoned our outgoings are about 2800 a month. thats before 'spending/clothes/luxuries etc'
in the Uk it was 3500 but in £s

but the mrs earns twice as much here as she did in the UK
my money is pretty similar but it all goes back into the business
much better off here,

You missed:

Cost of residency: $500,000

Flabound oneday May 20th 2012 5:18 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
didnt miss it, didnt pay that.....................as a rough estimate to date i would say £30-35k

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 5:45 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10072098)
You go first... otherwise it's a complete waste of time!

Ian

OK Ian:
HERES my expenses in the UK per week:
1. gas & elec dual fuel fixed till Sep-Eon direct debit: £37.75
2. Boat license:£10.60
3. House insurance: £3.21
4. car insurance:£10.75 NOT "no claims" as we were away for over 2 years.
5. TV licence: £3.18
6. Broadband and phone virgin media £9.60
7. Council tax : £35.50
8. petrol : £21.76 ave- 140 miles a week
9. water : £9.25
10. Car disc: £1.78
11. shopping: £90 aprox. for 4
TOTAL: £232.24

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 10072329)
You missed:

Cost of residency: $500,000

What does this mean?:(

fatbrit May 20th 2012 6:09 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072387)
What does this mean?:(

If you want to buy residency, the easiest method is to put $500k on the table.

fatbrit May 20th 2012 6:12 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Flabound oneday (Post 10072365)
didnt miss it, didnt pay that.....................as a rough estimate to date i would say £30-35k

Doubt it cost me more than $2k. But the question is what the OP would need to secure residency.

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 6:18 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10071395)
OK I am doing around the world best places to retire and Florida could be possible. If you can supply your expenses then I will post my costs here in the UK and the island of Tenerife- to compare if thats OK-
1. gas
2. Electricity
3. Council tax or rates
4. house insurance
5. water costs
6. food
7. car tax/disc
8. internet broadband + phone
9. car insurance
10.petrol

If you can think of anything else thats needs costing-such as prescriptions and health for instance.

Are you thinking about retiring in Florida...or is this for some type of book/blog? If you wish to move to the US...what type of visa will you have?

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 6:50 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10072409)
Are you thinking about retiring in Florida...or is this for some type of book/blog? If you wish to move to the US...what type of visa will you have?

I am not quite sure most likely retirement but could get teaching jobs(if there is any!)- elementary and or music/art or live off rented UK house- thats the choices.:o

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 6:55 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072438)
I am not quite sure most likely retirement but could get teaching jobs(if there is any!)- elementary and or music/art or live off rented UK house- thats the choices.:o

Thousands of out of work teachers in the US. From what you've told us you will not be able to get a visa to live here. You can visit the US for up to 90 days...or if you are retired you may be able get a visa to stay for 6 months per year.

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 7:09 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10072444)
Thousands of out of work teachers in the US. From what you've told us you will not be able to get a visa to live here. You can visit the US for up to 90 days...or if you are retired you may be able get a visa to stay for 6 months per year.

Really 6 months a year that is all I need-Do you have a source??:thumbsup:
Is there any concessions when it comes to bills for retirees?

md95065 May 20th 2012 7:20 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072457)
Is there any concessions when it comes to bills for retirees?

Once you reach senior citizen status you will probably be able to get reduced bus fairs and lower prices when you go out to the movies - that's about it ...

Boiler May 20th 2012 7:24 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
They would change you more if that is what you mean, look up Homestead allowance.

goldenstate31 May 20th 2012 7:51 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072385)
OK Ian:
HERES my expenses in the UK per week:

11. shopping: £90 aprox. for 4

Wow! :ohmy: dont be offended but you guys must be eating beans on toast if your feeding a family of 4 for £90.00!?
what supermarket are you shopping at? :p

Both Worlds May 20th 2012 7:57 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by goldenstate31 (Post 10072514)
Wow! :ohmy: dont be offended but you guys must be eating beans on toast if your feeding a family of 4 for £90.00!?
what supermarket are you shopping at? :p

Not really-aldi and tesco-its alot cheaper for food in the UK than australia which our bill was $225

Ray May 20th 2012 8:08 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
. gas NONE
2. Electricity $150 a month
3. Council tax or rates $1600 a year
4. house insurance $1600
5. water costs $70 a month
6. food $220 a month 2 old people
7. car tax/disc $70 yearly
8. internet broadband + phone $115
9. car insurance $700 yearly
10.petrol $150 a month

in Florida

21 hrs in hospital $10k

guns and ammo $2000 a year

markwm May 20th 2012 9:24 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 10072544)
guns and ammo $2000 a year

:lol:

Jerseygirl May 20th 2012 9:50 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Both Worlds (Post 10072457)
Really 6 months a year that is all I need-Do you have a source??:thumbsup:
Is there any concessions when it comes to bills for retirees?

Having homes in more than one country is very expensive. Even if you are renting...you will still need a car in both places.

Flabound oneday May 20th 2012 9:51 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 10072544)
.
6. food $220 a month 2 old people

8. internet broadband + phone $115

thats a wind up right ?

Lion in Winter May 20th 2012 10:07 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Flabound oneday (Post 10072665)
thats a wind up right ?

No.

Ray doesn't eat much, and shoots most of his own food.

Lion in Winter May 20th 2012 10:09 pm

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 10072544)
. gas NONE
2. Electricity $150 a month
3. Council tax or rates $1600 a year
4. house insurance $1600
5. water costs $70 a month
6. food $220 a month 2 old people
7. car tax/disc $70 yearly
8. internet broadband + phone $115
9. car insurance $700 yearly
10.petrol $150 a month

in Florida

21 hrs in hospital $10k

guns and ammo $2000 a year


What about Sanchez' salary?

Ray May 21st 2012 12:14 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 

Originally Posted by Flabound oneday (Post 10072665)
thats a wind up right ?

which bit ...

Flabound oneday May 21st 2012 12:55 am

Re: Cost of living Florida
 
living on 7 bucks a day for food..........


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