Consular Birth Certificate question
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Consular Birth Certificate question
Hi, this question has probably been answered in some form but I haven't quite found the answer yet, so here goes. Scenario ...
I am British by birth, parents are both British by birth, so my offspring are automatically entitled to a British passport.
I have a new little baby girl, born in California, October 2010, birth certificate issued just after 3 months was up. She has my last name on the birth certificate.
Mother is American and we are unmarried, we have plans to in the future.
I realise that a consular birth certificate is not necessary in order to get a British passport for my daughter but looking on this forum and elswhere it seems like it could prove useful in the future so I'd like to get one.
On the birth registration form checklist in the FAQ it says "Our child's claims to UK nationality is through the father and we are unmarried. Can we use this form?" Answer "No, please phone 202-588-7800".
So my question is this .... why can't I use this form and what do I need to do in order to get a consular birth certificate? Thought I'd ask here as its probably quicker than leaving an answer phone message at the consulate.
Thanks for any help.
John
I am British by birth, parents are both British by birth, so my offspring are automatically entitled to a British passport.
I have a new little baby girl, born in California, October 2010, birth certificate issued just after 3 months was up. She has my last name on the birth certificate.
Mother is American and we are unmarried, we have plans to in the future.
I realise that a consular birth certificate is not necessary in order to get a British passport for my daughter but looking on this forum and elswhere it seems like it could prove useful in the future so I'd like to get one.
On the birth registration form checklist in the FAQ it says "Our child's claims to UK nationality is through the father and we are unmarried. Can we use this form?" Answer "No, please phone 202-588-7800".
So my question is this .... why can't I use this form and what do I need to do in order to get a consular birth certificate? Thought I'd ask here as its probably quicker than leaving an answer phone message at the consulate.
Thanks for any help.
John
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Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Largely, because you can't prove she's your daughter... at least, not without a DNA paternity test.
I suggest you phone the number.
Umm... probably not!
Ian
... what do I need to do in order to get a consular birth certificate?
Thought I'd ask here as its probably quicker than leaving an answer phone message at the consulate.
Ian
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Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Ian, that sounds expensive and potentially hard to do as we are in different countries at the moment. Is not a declaration of paternity sufficient if signed by both me and the mother? I know that is not proof per se but neither is being married to the mother genetic proof, just presumption.
Thanks for your reply,
John
Thanks for your reply,
John
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Don't have much to add to the above, because I don't really know.
You don't actually need the certificate, but doing the registration is worthwhile, if the hundred odd bucks extra means anything to you or not.
You don't actually need the certificate, but doing the registration is worthwhile, if the hundred odd bucks extra means anything to you or not.
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Bob, well you don't have kids to save money, as ppl delight in telling me. It does look like a worthwhile investment so I do aim to get one, didn't figure in a $400+ paternity test though!
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You can include the hospital birth record thing with her foot prints on, showing you as the father as well as the birth certificate issued a bit late, they just want to make sure you didn't adopt. Any other proof?
Never mind I missed the unmarried part LOL.
Never mind I missed the unmarried part LOL.
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You can include the hospital birth record thing with her foot prints on, showing you as the father as well as the birth certificate issued a bit late, they just want to make sure you didn't adopt. Any other proof?
Never mind I missed the unmarried part LOL.
Never mind I missed the unmarried part LOL.
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Congrats on the baby though!
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Hi, this question has probably been answered in some form but I haven't quite found the answer yet, so here goes. Scenario ...
I am British by birth, parents are both British by birth, so my offspring are automatically entitled to a British passport.
I have a new little baby girl, born in California, October 2010, birth certificate issued just after 3 months was up. She has my last name on the birth certificate.
Mother is American and we are unmarried, we have plans to in the future.
I realise that a consular birth certificate is not necessary in order to get a British passport for my daughter but looking on this forum and elswhere it seems like it could prove useful in the future so I'd like to get one.
On the birth registration form checklist in the FAQ it says "Our child's claims to UK nationality is through the father and we are unmarried. Can we use this form?" Answer "No, please phone 202-588-7800".
I am British by birth, parents are both British by birth, so my offspring are automatically entitled to a British passport.
I have a new little baby girl, born in California, October 2010, birth certificate issued just after 3 months was up. She has my last name on the birth certificate.
Mother is American and we are unmarried, we have plans to in the future.
I realise that a consular birth certificate is not necessary in order to get a British passport for my daughter but looking on this forum and elswhere it seems like it could prove useful in the future so I'd like to get one.
On the birth registration form checklist in the FAQ it says "Our child's claims to UK nationality is through the father and we are unmarried. Can we use this form?" Answer "No, please phone 202-588-7800".
Prior to 1 July 2006, children of unmarried British fathers usually did not automatically become British when born. In some circumstances they could become British later on (eg if parents married, or if they applied for citizenship before age 18) but this was never retroactive to birth.
IF they want you to use a different form then that's ok - call the number and ask. However, if they tell you your child isn't eligible then that would of course be wrong and you should challenge it.
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You wrote: "because you can't prove she's your daughter... at least, not without a DNA paternity test". Which is an untrue statement.
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Ian