Consular Birth Certificate question
Hi, this question has probably been answered in some form but I haven't quite found the answer yet, so here goes. Scenario ...
I am British by birth, parents are both British by birth, so my offspring are automatically entitled to a British passport. I have a new little baby girl, born in California, October 2010, birth certificate issued just after 3 months was up. She has my last name on the birth certificate. Mother is American and we are unmarried, we have plans to in the future. I realise that a consular birth certificate is not necessary in order to get a British passport for my daughter but looking on this forum and elswhere it seems like it could prove useful in the future so I'd like to get one. On the birth registration form checklist in the FAQ it says "Our child's claims to UK nationality is through the father and we are unmarried. Can we use this form?" Answer "No, please phone 202-588-7800". So my question is this .... why can't I use this form and what do I need to do in order to get a consular birth certificate? Thought I'd ask here as its probably quicker than leaving an answer phone message at the consulate. Thanks for any help. John |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by John4301
(Post 9147594)
... why can't I use this form...
... what do I need to do in order to get a consular birth certificate? Thought I'd ask here as its probably quicker than leaving an answer phone message at the consulate. Ian |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Ian, that sounds expensive and potentially hard to do as we are in different countries at the moment. Is not a declaration of paternity sufficient if signed by both me and the mother? I know that is not proof per se but neither is being married to the mother genetic proof, just presumption.
Thanks for your reply, John |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Don't have much to add to the above, because I don't really know.
You don't actually need the certificate, but doing the registration is worthwhile, if the hundred odd bucks extra means anything to you or not. |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Bob, well you don't have kids to save money, as ppl delight in telling me. It does look like a worthwhile investment so I do aim to get one, didn't figure in a $400+ paternity test though!
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Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
You can include the hospital birth record thing with her foot prints on, showing you as the father as well as the birth certificate issued a bit late, they just want to make sure you didn't adopt. Any other proof?
Never mind I missed the unmarried part LOL. |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
(Post 9148021)
You can include the hospital birth record thing with her foot prints on, showing you as the father as well as the birth certificate issued a bit late, they just want to make sure you didn't adopt. Any other proof?
Never mind I missed the unmarried part LOL. |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by John4301
(Post 9147944)
Bob, well you don't have kids to save money, as ppl delight in telling me. It does look like a worthwhile investment so I do aim to get one, didn't figure in a $400+ paternity test though!
Congrats on the baby though! :) |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by John4301
(Post 9147930)
I know that is not proof per se but neither is being married to the mother genetic proof, just presumption.
Ian |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by John4301
(Post 9147594)
Hi, this question has probably been answered in some form but I haven't quite found the answer yet, so here goes. Scenario ...
I am British by birth, parents are both British by birth, so my offspring are automatically entitled to a British passport. I have a new little baby girl, born in California, October 2010, birth certificate issued just after 3 months was up. She has my last name on the birth certificate. Mother is American and we are unmarried, we have plans to in the future. I realise that a consular birth certificate is not necessary in order to get a British passport for my daughter but looking on this forum and elswhere it seems like it could prove useful in the future so I'd like to get one. On the birth registration form checklist in the FAQ it says "Our child's claims to UK nationality is through the father and we are unmarried. Can we use this form?" Answer "No, please phone 202-588-7800". Prior to 1 July 2006, children of unmarried British fathers usually did not automatically become British when born. In some circumstances they could become British later on (eg if parents married, or if they applied for citizenship before age 18) but this was never retroactive to birth. IF they want you to use a different form then that's ok - call the number and ask. However, if they tell you your child isn't eligible then that would of course be wrong and you should challenge it. |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 9148360)
Contrary to some other posts on this thread, paternity testing is not standard practice.
Ian |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
(Post 9148396)
I don't believe I said anything about it being standard practice. He asked why he couldn't use the form.
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Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 9148436)
And you told him he needed to do a paternity test.
Ian |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
(Post 9149226)
With respect, I didn't tell him to do anything of the sort. Please read what I wrote... not what you think I wrote.
Ian |
Re: Consular Birth Certificate question
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 9149265)
You wrote: "because you can't prove she's your daughter... at least, not without a DNA paternity test". Which is an untrue statement.
Ian |
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